2019 School Rugby
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@mariner4life said in 2019 School Rugby:
so from reading this page, every school does it except the school a poster went to.
I specifically said my school had a sports director guilty of precisely what St Kents do. True, we were much worse in another sport, but I never said we were snow white.
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@chester-draws think you take things a bit too literally, TSF is hyperbole capital...
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This reminds me of the school boy rugby disaster in Oz. Kicking out teams that give you a flogging rather than raise yourself to the level required to compete. Seems utterly self defeating.
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@antipodean They do need to have nationwide regulations in place. St Kents circumvented the 1A rules by doing their additional poaching outside of the Auckland region (x5).
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Common sense again from the players body, who aren't all about the money or glory
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New Zealand Rugby complete school review, make 31 recommendations New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has today announced the completion of the independent review of New Zealand secondary school rugby. ... Following a contestable process the review was led by EdSol NZ, an educational consultancy company, key recommendations include: - Establish an advisory group (New Zealand Secondary Schools Rugby Union) to develop vision, values and strategy for secondary school rugby - NZR Manager of Secondary School Rugby appointed - Guidelines for both performance and non-performance grades - Equitable resourcing of girls' rugby in co-ed schools and adequate resourcing in schools where girls' rugby is a "new" sport - Guidelines for provincial unions and schools on format and form of secondary school rugby grades for both boys and girls The report was damning of First XV rugby and the recruitment practices of some schools. "There is widespread concern over the impacts of player recruitment into selected schools. Some of these consequences may be unintended," it said. "The perceptions that players are being over-trained, have a sense of entitlement and are denied other sporting opportunities are widely expressed.The report said the "lack of an overarching governance body" was a repeated message they received from stakeholders during the review. NZR chief rugby officer Nigel Cass acknowledged the review formed part of NZR's commitment to providing a world-leading school rugby system for all of its participants. -
Not looking good...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12194711
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@Machpants I know the focus is 1st 15, but I would wager the problem starts earlier than that, more likely in the U13/14/15 grades where they start losing numbers.
My experience is only anecdotal on player numbers and seeing kids leave the sport for a variety of reasons but I would expect most other regions experience similar issues as we do up here, and I know it starts before 1st 15 level up here. Not to mention with WBHS playing in the NH comp, it means there isnt a regular 1st 15 comp in Whangarei/Northland like there used to be, and most kids play for thier clubs, or not at all.
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Already posted in the Hurricanes thread, but I think it's good to post it here as well, as he's still a schoolboy.
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FIXTURES FINALISED FOR WORLD SCHOOLS FESTIVAL
The fixtures for the 2019 World Schools Festival have been released, with a host of mouth-watering matches expected to set the tournament alight at Paul Roos Gymnasium in Stellenbosch. The event will see ten South African teams take on ten sides from the rest of the world in a Ryder Cup-style competition, with the home schools determined to defend the crown they captured in the inaugural festival in 2018. KwaZulu-Natal outfit Glenwood, who finished 2018 as the third-ranked side in South Africa according to www.rugby365.com, will open the tournament against New Zealanders John McGlashan College, who will be making their debut at the festival. (...)Paarl Gimnasium’s other match will be against the Africa Pacific Dragons Select XV, a staple of the World Schools Festival that will be comprised of talent from some of New Zealand’s top schools, including Kelston Boys’ High School, Wesley College and Hastings Boys’ High School. Christchurch Boys’ High School, one of the leading sporting schools in New Zealand, return to the festival and will renew their rivalry with Grey College, a side they lost to 66-28 last year, while they will also face Affies in the penultimate match of the tournament. Hosts Paul Roos kick-off their campaign against fellow debutants Southland Boys’ High School from New Zealand, while they face another Kiwi team in Napier Boys’ High School in the final match of the competition.See the link for the draw (kick-off times TBA)
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The World School Festival begins tomorrow, Tuesday 26 March.
This is the draw for round 1 (times are NZT):
Tuesday, 26 March:
9.30pm - 10.45pm: Glenwood v John McGlashan College (Dunedin)
11.00pm - 00.15am: WP Invitational v World Select XVWednesday, 27 March:
00.30am - 01.45am: SACS v Zambesi Steelers
02.00am - 03.15am: Monument v Hartpury College
03.30am - 04.45am: Paarl Gim v Africa Pacific Dragons09.30pm - 10.45pm: Affies v Italian All Stars
11.00pm - 00.15am: Boland Landbau v Napier Boys High SchoolThursday, 28 March:
00.30am - 01.45am: Hilton College v USA Schools XV
02.00am - 03.15am: Grey College v Christchurch Boys High School
03.30am - 04.45am: Paul Roos v Southland Boys High SchoolThe games will livestreamed. This is the info posted on the OVO Mobile Facebook page:
Starting on the Tuesday 26th of March, OVO is bringing you every match, live from South Africa. We also have last years action uploaded and ready to view! Each days live games will be available within 24 hours for you to watch at any time! We will be online and available for any question, so please don't hesitate to message us and we can help 😁 👉👉To watch it live, in HD please follow these steps:👈👈 Download the OVO Play app from your app store (search for OVO Play) - or head to our website: https://ovo.app.link/wsf Register and grab your pass for just AUD $9.99* in OZ / USD $9.99* for the rest of the world - you’ll get 3 months access to both the live stream & the catch up of all games. Then when the action starts sign in and watch on your phone or tablet or cast it to the big screen with chrome cast and airplay. *Note that depending on your location, and the channel through which you are purchasing access (OVOPlay website, Google Play or Apple App stores) local taxes and fees may be added and currency converted from AUD or USD. These fees are in addition to the subscription.Edited to add:
By the way, I haven't seen any squad lists, but I understand there are quite a few NZ boys in the Africa Pacific Dragons squad from several different schools. -
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So St Kent's has finally joined other Auckland schools by accepting the new agreement.
Any further poaching of opposition talent in New Zealand has been essentially banned as part of a ground-breaking new Secondary Schools rugby agreement. On Monday, representatives of 10 schools in Auckland's 1A grade rugby competition met to decide a new set to standards as a result of the proposed boycott of St Kentigern College for their alleged unfair recruitment practices. According to a statement released on Tuesday morning, they've agreed to the following terms: - Not permit any form of player recruitment or inducement to attract a student from another school’s first XV rugby team that is part of an NZRU sanctioned competition. - Not offer a student from another schools first XV Rugby team (that is part of an NZRU sanctioned competition) a partial or full scholarship to attend their school. - Any new to school player who has transferred from an NZRU 1st XV sanctioned competition will be stood down for six 1A competition games, and any potential semi-final or final matches..
Great, they can't poach from other 1st XV teams in NZRU sanctioned competitions, but will this lead to an increase in poaching from the Islands?
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@Stargazer said in 2019 School Rugby:
So St Kent's has finally joined other Auckland schools by accepting the new agreement.
Any further poaching of opposition talent in New Zealand has been essentially banned as part of a ground-breaking new Secondary Schools rugby agreement. On Monday, representatives of 10 schools in Auckland's 1A grade rugby competition met to decide a new set to standards as a result of the proposed boycott of St Kentigern College for their alleged unfair recruitment practices. According to a statement released on Tuesday morning, they've agreed to the following terms: - Not permit any form of player recruitment or inducement to attract a student from another school’s first XV rugby team that is part of an NZRU sanctioned competition. - Not offer a student from another schools first XV Rugby team (that is part of an NZRU sanctioned competition) a partial or full scholarship to attend their school. - Any new to school player who has transferred from an NZRU 1st XV sanctioned competition will be stood down for six 1A competition games, and any potential semi-final or final matches..
Great, they can't poach from other 1st XV teams in NZRU sanctioned competitions, but will this lead to an increase in poaching from the Islands?
I wonder if there is a section in the policy that allows for students who move for family reasons to not be subject to these conditions? Say a father gets a new job in Auckland in March and the family move from Hawkes Bay and the son was in the Hastings Boys 1st XV - is that boy banned from playing six games and the semi and final?
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@Nepia What you describe is not recruiting, inducing to attract or offering a scholarship. It would be great if it's spelled out explicitly, but it doesn't sound as if these rules apply to players that move with their family for the reasons you mention.
