England v Australia
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Well that’s it for the season, on the paddock – now for the recriminations phase.
I see the call is out to sack Michael Cheika, who must now defend himself over the mediocre, often abysmal, performance by a group of donkeys (who draw a handsome fee for their ugly efforts). Cheika is as highly credentialed as they get in Australia – what more can someone else realistically promise? The elephant in the room is that Cheika is well protected by the most powerful faction at Club level from assassination by any one of several factions in the ARU, interstate, pop-gun pretend interstate, country rugby and the players union. He needs to be because the greatest threat to Australian rugby is from the power brokers and egos within, many otherwise unemployable - there are very few Jones, Macqueens and Cheikas who have demonstrated their capability to carve a fortune elsewhere, and who rugby needs more than they need rugby.
The players are not coached to drop the ball, to pass it to no-one, to not form a cohesive defence, to miss tackles, to get pushed around the paddock for sometimes 20 metres at a time, to lose their own throw, to not take kicks when they are on offer and to reef it downfield a whole one metre into the outstretched arms of the bloke thundering in from your right who knows that you have no idea what is around you. These are matters of individual fundamental skill and player failure to improve the limited range they offer when they first attend Wallaby training.
What have those who sit in judgement of the coach done to improve the quality of players available for selection? During the past year and during the past five years? Not much.
What are they likely to do in the next little while, other than strut their politically correct social justice stuff and modern corporate management model, including a Goth as CEO? Not much. Will they continue to turn up at the pay office to collect their directors fees? Too right they will.
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@nzzp said in England v Australia:
Just saw that Farrell charge. it's at the start of teh Stuff article below (probably region locked).
I have no idea how that was not a penalty try. He is a very very lucky boy -- the downside is that the controversy could rear it's head at the RWC next year, and he may find some time on the sidelines. Seriously, shaking my head yet again at the lack of consistency in refereeing. No idea how the players cope with random calls from week to week... how the hell do you play to the edge if the edge changes all the time.
Frustrating times as a neutral who thinks Farrell is a pit of a dick.
That is a disgraceful non call for the second time in three matches. If that has been an AB on a Pom the screams to lynch him would be as deafening as the expected silence after this incident
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I find the way England and Itoje in particular likes to whoop and holler at the opposition's mistakes tiresome. OTOH as sledges go this from Kyle Sinckler isn't too bad: “Mate, you’re all f—-ing snitches anyway”.
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@crossbencher paywalled article, cut n paste?
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I saw a video of Daley's try on instagram. My favourite part was Hooper trying to tackle Farrell, and it's so ineffectual it looks like a little kid trying to tackle his older brother.
Hooper is just not a great test player. And he's the captain with a giant contract. Defies belief.
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@mikethesnow said in England v Australia:
Fuck me Farrell should be off and Penalty Try.
Farrell has mastered 2 types of tackles - missed and no arms.
But Aussie have big problems in their pack to solve.
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@mariner4life To be fair to Hooper he saved a certain try to Cokanasiga on the goal line with a desperation tackle.
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@paekakboyz Bugger! Didn't realise that when I first landed on it and I'm now paywalled out too. Here's SBS version
England prop's brutal sledge for Wallabies
England prop Kyle Sinckler used a sledge to remind the Wallabies of their off-field issues in his team's Test win at Twickenham.
England prop Kyle Sinckler ensured the Wallabies' off-field dramas weren't forgotten during their 37-18 Test defeat at Twickenham.
"You're all f...ing snitches anyway," declared Sinckler as a scuffle broke out early in the second half.
It was an apparent reference to the Wallabies' leadership group informing coach Michael Cheika that veterans Kurtley Beale and Adam Ashley-Cooper had breached team rules by having women in their hotel room after the Test loss to Wales.
While the guests were Ashley-Cooper's sister-in-law and two friends and they reportedly left after having some food and drink, Cheika responded by dropping both players for the England game.
It didn't help that the coach initially claimed the players were dropped for form and game plan reasons before the real story emerged.
Player of the match Sinckler was admonished after his sledge by referee Jaco Peyper who told him: "There are the laws of the game and the spirit."
Wallabies captain Michael Hooper said he didn't believe the off-field issue had affected the players during their loss to England and that he missed the Sinckler jibe.
"I didn't hear that," Hooper said.
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Considering the TMO watches everything in minute detail, how was that missed, it's as blatant as they come
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@mariner4life said in England v Australia:
Considering the TMO watches everything in minute detail, how was that missed, it's as blatant as they come
Wasnt there a recent change a couple of months ago where the TMO cant intervene but only get involved when referred to by the ref?
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@crossbencher said in England v Australia:
@paekakboyz Bugger! Didn't realise that when I first landed on it and I'm now paywalled out too. Here's SBS version
England prop's brutal sledge for Wallabies
England prop Kyle Sinckler used a sledge to remind the Wallabies of their off-field issues in his team's Test win at Twickenham.
England prop Kyle Sinckler ensured the Wallabies' off-field dramas weren't forgotten during their 37-18 Test defeat at Twickenham.
"You're all f...ing snitches anyway," declared Sinckler as a scuffle broke out early in the second half.
It was an apparent reference to the Wallabies' leadership group informing coach Michael Cheika that veterans Kurtley Beale and Adam Ashley-Cooper had breached team rules by having women in their hotel room after the Test loss to Wales.
While the guests were Ashley-Cooper's sister-in-law and two friends and they reportedly left after having some food and drink, Cheika responded by dropping both players for the England game.
It didn't help that the coach initially claimed the players were dropped for form and game plan reasons before the real story emerged.
Player of the match Sinckler was admonished after his sledge by referee Jaco Peyper who told him: "There are the laws of the game and the spirit."
Wallabies captain Michael Hooper said he didn't believe the off-field issue had affected the players during their loss to England and that he missed the Sinckler jibe.
"I didn't hear that," Hooper said.
I thought it Sinckler hooping and hollering that was the issue at that scuffle, and Haco was telling him off for that.
I'll give him credit for the sledge though. Its clever. It's not abusive or personal (doesn't "cross the loine"). It's not crude. It hurts. Top work that man.
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If this was Sonny Bill he'd have been crucified in the middle of London. i dont know how many times I heard the NH coms say SBW has the shoulder charge in his game on the lions tour. Well guess fucking what, so does Farrell.
Peyper is a disgrace.
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@booboo said in England v Australia:
I'll give him credit for the sledge though. Its clever. It's not abusive or personal (doesn't "cross the loine"). It's not crude. It hurts.
British Lion's player to Colin Meads after an AB scrum had been demolished: "How's that for scrummaging, you f*ucker"
Meads: "F*cking impressive. When you pull your head out of your arse, you'll see we've just scored"
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@canefan said in England v Australia:
@nzzp said in England v Australia:
Just saw that Farrell charge. it's at the start of teh Stuff article below (probably region locked).
I have no idea how that was not a penalty try. He is a very very lucky boy -- the downside is that the controversy could rear it's head at the RWC next year, and he may find some time on the sidelines. Seriously, shaking my head yet again at the lack of consistency in refereeing. No idea how the players cope with random calls from week to week... how the hell do you play to the edge if the edge changes all the time.
Frustrating times as a neutral who thinks Farrell is a pit of a dick.
That is a disgraceful non call for the second time in three matches. If that has been an AB on a Pom the screams to lynch him would be as deafening as the expected silence after this incident
And he got away with one on Foley about 10 mins into the second half
That's three for the Autumn.
