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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Just watched the 1014 show on sky, a stats-fest summary of TRC.

    I was struck by their last slide, lineouts won, Sam Whitelock not even on the list of top 10. Not something they discussed.

    Read was NZs top source, then S Barrett.

    Etzebeth a machine for SAF.

    Interesting.

    I know we sometimes don't use our one of our locks at all in some tests , just to fuck with my head, but over 6 games where the hell did Sam W disappear to?

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    @rapido said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

    Just watched the 1014 show on sky, a stats-fest summary of TRC.

    I was struck by their last slide, lineouts won, Sam Whitelock not even on the list of top 10. Not something they discussed.

    Read was NZs top source, then S Barrett.

    Etzebeth a machine for SAF.

    Interesting.

    I know we sometimes don't use our one of our locks at all in some tests , just to fuck with my head, but over 6 games where the hell did Sam W disappear to?

    He didn't. I think it is simply due to our lineout strategies. Using Read so much offers a 'boy who cried wolf' situation with those marking Whitelock and BBB. At least we have the options to play with unlike a certain team in yellow...

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    Here are the lineout stats:

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    Team lineout stats:
    1 New Zealand 86.80%
    2 South Africa 85.20%
    3 Argentina 84.50%
    4 Australia 78.20%

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    @rapido said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

    I know we sometimes don't use our one of our locks at all in some tests , just to fuck with my head, but over 6 games where the hell did Sam W disappear to?

    Pretty sure Whitelock is the lifter for most of Reads takes

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    A few years ago we would switch which one of our locks was a primary target.

    One week Retallick would have 0 takes, next week Whitelock 0 takes, sort of thing. We can mix it up with 4 targets.

    But. I'm still very surprised that over 6 games Sam Whitelock doesn't make a list where the cutoff is 9 takes. That's a very interesting approach.

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    @duluth said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

    @rapido said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

    I know we sometimes don't use our one of our locks at all in some tests , just to fuck with my head, but over 6 games where the hell did Sam W disappear to?

    Pretty sure Whitelock is the lifter for most of Reads takes

    tall lifters make a world of difference.

    This is based on nothing than single watch, naked eye type analysis. But i think we throw to the front a lot more than most teams. And i think this is because the speed and width of Aaron Smith's pass allows us to use 2 or 3 ball as still good attacking ball, where as other teams feel the need to throw a bit deeper. And if you are throwing to the front you are often hitting your shorter jumper. I would actually like to go back and break down our lineouts in a test one day, but who has that sort of time?

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    @mariner4life @gt12 won''t be doing his Frizell watch this tour so he might have the time?

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    @nepia

    I’ll see if I have time, specific test?

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    Radio Sport's Out of the Box podcast has yet another new home:

    Sport

    Graham Henry is on the Short Ball Podcast this week:

    https://www.podbean.com/site/EpisodeDownload/PB9D33E56CDMK

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    Henry:

    Blake Gibson's been injured, otherwise he'd be on the All Black tour.

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    I think Papali'i is a better loose forward so things have worked out for the better.

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    Henry basically said Akira Ioane should be in the All Blacks, and if "they showed him a bit of love" he could be an international great.

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    Big wraps on Olmsted, Faiane, and Manu.

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    Henry will be away for half next year's competition at the RWC. However, he wants to stay involved with Auckland Rugby.

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    @tim said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

    Henry basically said Akira Ioane should be in the All Blacks, and if "they showed him a bit of love" he could be an international great.

    Was nice to hear Sumo also question why the hell Akira is not in the ABs: if this AB coaching staff is so great why can they not get the best out of him.

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    @kiwimurph Yeah that was great stuff, and echoed our own @Rocky-Rockbottom

    Was also interesting to hear Mils be so ambivalent about the "dead-rubber" game vs. Oz.

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    Bumping this from another thread: @DrivingMaul and @Steven-Harris talking about the ABs & NZ Maori tours


    @drivingmaul said in England vs All Blacks:

    Steven Harris, Ashwin and I will be reviewing & previewing the All Blacks, Maori All Blacks and Black Ferns games on Wednesday evening at 8pm

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    @duluth keep still Steven..!

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    @steven-harris haha you forget there was a camera 😉 nice shirt though!

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    @duluth We'll be back on Wednesday night at 8pm 🙂

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