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  • RapidoR Offline
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    @crucial said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @rapido said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @crucial said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @rapido said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @crucial said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    What's the story with Faf not being available for the whole EOYT?
    I get that the England game is timed before the international window (not that it seems to have affected England) but surely SA can call on him for international duty for the other games?

    They can. That's the only match outside the window.

    But they seem to have had to negotiate his release for the other tests this year despite full right to call on him for internationals.
    No wonder the NZRU don’t want to select overseas players. It’s a mess.

    Yeah, apologies, I just saw an article explaining it.

    https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/RugbyChampionship/sale-confirm-faf-is-not-available-for-boks-euro-tour-20181009

    So Sale, SARU and Faf have negotiated their own deal. Faf played in RC (out of window) and in re-compense he doesn't play November.

    If all parties are ok with that then I'm ok. I'd rather he played RC.

    How is RC deemed to be out of window?

    It's not in window as far as I know (nor is 6 nations?).

    Which is why the RC is a closed club for SH nations financially strong enough to have domestic professional teams with a pool of players under their own central contracting.

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    I didn’t realize that. So only June, EOYT and RWC are ‘window’?

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    @crucial said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    I didn’t realize that. So only June, EOYT and RWC are ‘window’?

    I think so. I've done a google search but it's just pages of articles on the global calendar changes.

    Also the name 'World Rugby' makes google searches a pretty fucking pointless trawl. It's a phrase, not a name. Bring back the IRB!

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    I think it's sopmething silly like some of the 6N and RC games are in the window, but not all. It might just be 4 of each, dating back to Tri Nations/5N days.

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    I posted a condensed summary of the Global Release windows a week or so back.

    Here is the link to the WR regulations over availability of players.

    https://www.world.rugby/handbook/regulations/reg-9/reg-9

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    REgulation 9
    June window - 3 weekends in June - Unless Council approves otherwise the three weekends in June shall be the second, third and fourth weekends.
    November window - 3 weekends in November - Unless Council approves otherwise the three weekends in November shall be the second, third and fourth weekends.
    ... plus ...
    Northern Hemisphere - from the first weekend of February each year and conclude on the third weekend of March.
    Southern Hemisphere - commence on the first weekend of August and continue for the next eight consecutive weekends.
    .. plus, a whole of other shit... eg:
    (Southern Hemisphere) eg: Four Nations Release Period shall operate each year for an eight week period. It shall commence on or around the third weekend in August and shall conclude on or around the first weekend in October each year
    Edit - @Bovidae provided same info, much more succinctly.

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    @bovidae said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    I posted a condensed summary of the Global Release windows a week or so back.

    Here is the link to the WR regulations over availability of players.

    https://www.world.rugby/handbook/regulations/reg-9/reg-9

    Thanks.

    So there is this bit.

    (b) Southern Hemisphere Release Period

    (ii) Unless Council approves otherwise the Southern Hemisphere Release Period shall operate each year. It shall commence on the first weekend of August and continue for the next eight consecutive weekends. Players shall be released prior to the Southern Hemisphere Release Period in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 9.9.

    I guess that makes some sense then to me now. Understand more now the silly buggers business Leicester were playing with Toomua and Polota-Nau. Technically legal and attempting to make it not worth the bother.

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    @kirwan Hell know. He is not a winger. He needs some space and locked close to the touch line with no where to go he will have little impact.

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    Editor  /  Oct 10, 2018  /  Rugby Championship

    Rugby Championship: Team of the Tournament

    Rugby Championship: Team of the Tournament

    With another Rugby Championship now a thing of the past, it is time for us to sit down and select our dream team from this year's tournament.

    reasonable looking team, BBBR taking a place off three games, seems they auto vote him there too.

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    @machpants said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    Editor  /  Oct 10, 2018  /  Rugby Championship

    Rugby Championship: Team of the Tournament

    Rugby Championship: Team of the Tournament

    With another Rugby Championship now a thing of the past, it is time for us to sit down and select our dream team from this year's tournament.

    reasonable looking team, BBBR taking a place off three games, seems they auto vote him there too.

    Would have had Pollard ahead of Beauden at 10.

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    @akan004 said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @machpants said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    Editor  /  Oct 10, 2018  /  Rugby Championship

    Rugby Championship: Team of the Tournament

    Rugby Championship: Team of the Tournament

    With another Rugby Championship now a thing of the past, it is time for us to sit down and select our dream team from this year's tournament.

    reasonable looking team, BBBR taking a place off three games, seems they auto vote him there too.

    Would have had Pollard ahead of Beauden at 10.

    not Sanchez?

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    @antipodean Possibly, but Pollard stood up and performed well against the best team in the world twice so he gets the nod for me.

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    @antipodean I saw another best of team that had Sanchez at 10...

    Think it was Karl T, Marx, Franks, Etzebeth, Mostert, du Toit, Pocock, Read, Faf, Sanchez, Crotty, Goodhue, Ioane, Dyanti, Le Roux

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    @broughie said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @kirwan Hell know. He is not a winger. He needs some space and locked close to the touch line with no where to go he will have little impact.

    He's a great finisher, and with his pace he'd be good on the wing. Especially as a Jane like second fullback, where he could join the line and pick his mismatches that he likes.

    Watching the reviews of the game, where the gameplan of the Boks was to kick deep to us all the time, I think he would create more than Naholo (and catch more for that matter).

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    @taniwharugby said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @antipodean I saw another best of team that had Sanchez at 10...

    Think it was Karl T, Marx, Franks, Etzebeth, Mostert, du Toit, Pocock, Read, Faf, Sanchez, Crotty, Goodhue, Ioane, Dyanti, Le Roux

    I can't complain about much in that team, other than Bono Cockwomble. WTF do people see in him?

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    @antipodean yeah was my thoughts too...

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    Turnovers are an easy thing to point at and see, thus he ranked high because he's good at them. Pretty average at everything else but that requires thought in depth

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    I acknowledge he's awesome at that, but his defence is unbelievably passive for a guy with his build, possibly because he's looking to make turnovers. But you can get turnovers by driving forward in defence. And how often does he manage to make that turnover translate into a counter attacking opportunity? Hardly ever.

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    @kirwan while I appreciate his talent I don’t agree.

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    @kirwan said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @broughie said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @kirwan Hell know. He is not a winger. He needs some space and locked close to the touch line with no where to go he will have little impact.

    He's a great finisher, and with his pace he'd be good on the wing. Especially as a Jane like second fullback, where he could join the line and pick his mismatches that he likes.

    Watching the reviews of the game, where the gameplan of the Boks was to kick deep to us all the time, I think he would create more than Naholo (and catch more for that matter).

    The thing for me that while his top end may not like Naholo, he gets to his top speed in the blink of an eye and I find with that and his elusiveness he can put others away with ease.

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