Gooonnnnee too soon
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@act-crusader said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
Mose was a beast for the Saders.
Henry brought him in around that transition time when Collins was moved from 8 to 6 and he was looking for a new no8 trying several options - Rush, Mose, Bates, Lauaki, Newby - before ultimately settling with Rodders. Mose was decent but wasn’t given the time to develop as an AB for whatever reason. He was only 23 when he first made the ABs.
Crikey, some ordinary names in that list.
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@jegga said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@tim said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
How good was Mose Tuiali'i, and how much potential did he have? I'm a bit hazy on him.
He was no Sam Broomhall .
But then, who was?
I couldn't work out why Mose never made it. He had every physical gift needed to be a great Test 8, but it never clicked
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@shark said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
Like the Jasin Goldsmith call. Where did he go anyway? Was it an extremely early injury enforced retirement?
There was a kid called Brendon Daniel. Ridiculously promising BOP winger at the onset of the prefessional era I think, who went overseas at something like 20 and as far as I know never returned to play but nor did he make it wherver he went, surprisingly. Anyone else remember him?
Another in that sort of category was an open side from Canterbury called Greg Smith in around 1994/95. Crazy promise then disappeared.
Didn't Daniel have a long career with Saracens (I think).
Didn't Greg Smith go out with Melodie Robinson before "Canterbury Steve Walsh"?
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@nepia said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@shark said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
Like the Jasin Goldsmith call. Where did he go anyway? Was it an extremely early injury enforced retirement?
There was a kid called Brendon Daniel. Ridiculously promising BOP winger at the onset of the prefessional era I think, who went overseas at something like 20 and as far as I know never returned to play but nor did he make it wherver he went, surprisingly. Anyone else remember him?
Another in that sort of category was an open side from Canterbury called Greg Smith in around 1994/95. Crazy promise then disappeared.
Didn't Daniel have a long career with Saracens (I think).
Didn't Greg Smith go out with Melodie Robinson before "Canterbury Steve Walsh"?
I had a good old read-up on Brendon Daniel last nigth after posting. Left in 2002 so not as long ago as I thought and yep played 200 or so games in the NH and then came back to BOP in 2011. I don't recall him ever playing for BOP again though?
As for dating Melodie Robinson, well, who can remember all of them??
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@mariner4life said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@jegga said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@tim said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
How good was Mose Tuiali'i, and how much potential did he have? I'm a bit hazy on him.
He was no Sam Broomhall .
But then, who was?
I couldn't work out why Mose never made it. He had every physical gift needed to be a great Test 8, but it never clicked
He woulda had all the physical gifts that Rodders maybe didn't have as much of but apparently Rodders fitness levels were off the charts
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Some older guys who retired from rugby very young - along with already mentioned Ron Jarden...
Graeme Thorne, I think he got a girl pregnant in South Africa and was only in his early 20s when he went to live there.
Bob Burgess - outstanding first five...left to study in France, also in his early 20s.
Joe Karam - a league traitor in his early 20s.
Kit Fawcett - on the scrapheap at 21 after a pretty disastrous tour of South Africa. Left NZ to play overseas.
Bevan Wilson - gone by 23 though mainly as a result of injuries.
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James Somerset looked like a star until he injured his back
This is the only footage I can find of the U21 try that I remember him scoring (sorry for the quality)
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@stockcar86 said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
James Somerset looked like a star until he injured his back
This is the only footage I can find of the U21 try that I remember him scoring
Yeah but if he didn't we may have missed some class comedy from him on the box.
Or maybe he's only funny compared to Hayley Holt?
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@stockcar86 said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
James Somerset looked like a star until he injured his back
This is the only footage I can find of the U21 try that I remember him scoring (sorry for the quality)
I'm impressed. That's a great individual try.
I never thought of him as a nailed on potential future star (mainly due to his size), but then I saw never much of his play as he was crocked.
Not sure if the terrible video quality makes it look even better, he is literally ghosting past defenders.
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@dogmeat said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@chris-b Lawrie Knight went to France at 27 after scoring the series winning try against 77 Lions
Waka Nathan no international footy after 27 because of repeat injuries
Has John Drake been mentioned?Waka Nathan was in an article a year or so back about rugby and concussion. Apparently he’s suffering the effects quite badly now of his repeated head knocks .
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11607991
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@nepia said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@dogmeat said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@jegga not wanting to disparage a legend but he really liked a beer too, which probably compounded the concussion issues.
There's also the fact that dementia can develop without concussion as well.
.....and the fact he's an old man too
