2018 Football World Cup
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@rocky-rockbottom said in 2018 Football World Cup:
can see the strategy of having big boys (Kane/Falcao) take 1st pen, get off to a good start etc, but still, theyre the captains shouldnt they be taking 4th or 5th pens when its squeaky bum time, rather than biff some poor young git like Dier or Rashford in there at crunch time to clang it and face a potential lifetime of ignominy?
What an escape. I propose this penalty shootout line-up if England find themselves in the same predicament again
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In all seriousness, England have a great opportunity to make it at least to the SF, if not the final. They will have a decent chance against Sweden and Croatia, rather than face France or Brazil on the other side. They have lot of work to do though
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As a football match that was awful - hardly a chance created and both teams complaining to the ref like teenagers. England controlled the game but never really looked like scoring - Colombia without their best player struggled to create a thing until they switched to route 1.
Can England make the final? Yes but Sweden must be eyeing it up as well and that quarter-final looks like being another awful game - hope I'm wrong. Both sides are strong in the air so it could resemble a lower league game with plenty of long ball.
England look good when they are buzzing around doing everything fast but the skills of players such as Sterling aren't really up to it and once their zip went in the 2nd half, they didn't seem to have any other plan - except for players to fall over to try to win free kicks and penalties. (Colombia looked like they were playing for penalties from the start).
The 2 halves of this draw definitely look like the penthouse and the outhouse with the quality of the games so far.
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Awful game. Columbia gave me the shits and i wanted them out. Their behaviour was deplorable, and they should have seen another couple of cards early on. Then England bought in to it, and the last 20 mins was guys on the floor. It was everything i hate in soccer.
Trying to hold on to 1-0, and sitting deeper and deeper, is always dangerous, and boom. Extra time. Barely deserved given the way Columbia sat for most of the game.
England look structured, and have obviously bought in to the game plan, but lack that real creative player to turn all those passes in to attach. Add in Sterling and Lingard having numerous poor touches that turned the ball over, and all England's shape and control barely resulted in a chance. They need to find another way to get guys running in to space.
But to win on penalties is such a massive mental moment for them, who knows what they will come out with in the Quarter. A game that is very winnable.
And fuck off Columbia.
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@mariner4life said in 2018 Football World Cup:
Awful game. Columbia gave me the shits and i wanted them out. Their behaviour was deplorable, and they should have seen another couple of cards early on. Then England bought in to it, and the last 20 mins was guys on the floor. It was everything i hate in soccer.
Trying to hold on to 1-0, and sitting deeper and deeper, is always dangerous, and boom. Extra time. Barely deserved given the way Columbia sat for most of the game.
England look structured, and have obviously bought in to the game plan, but lack that real creative player to turn all those passes in to attach. Add in Sterling and Lingard having numerous poor touches that turned the ball over, and all England's shape and control barely resulted in a chance. They need to find another way to get guys running in to space.
But to win on penalties is such a massive mental moment for them, who knows what they will come out with in the Quarter. A game that is very winnable.
And fuck off Columbia.
Most of the South American teams are negative cynical and boorish. I expect similar stuff from Uruguay as well
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Really stoked they got through, I was certain they were done when the Colombia keeper made that save. Penalty shoot-outs really are a lottery, but the English can be happy they all kept their nerve and put their shots on target.
Agree with comments about the game, it was mostly pretty dire stuff. England look well coached, but they do lack - dare I say it - X factor. Think Kane needs to try and inject himself into the game more as he was drawing fouls when he had the ball near their goal.
Colombia seemed to have a similar plan to Panama - get in the English faces with niggle etc. Right at the end, and for the first half of ET they actually played some football and looked good. England to their credit put in a big effort in the second half of ET and created a couple of chances.
And I really don't see why they allow the players to run up spaz out at the ref about every decision. It's fucking nonsense and just wastes so much time - I really feel for the refs having to put up with that shit. Seeing a ref having to argue with a player about a decision is ridiculous - just make it captain only and card any other whiny little bitch that mouths off (see Aaron Smith v France for an example of how to deal with whiny little bitches).
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@no-quarter said in 2018 Football World Cup:
Think Kane needs to try and inject himself into the game more as he was drawing fouls when he had the ball near their goal.
He played too deep most of the time - that's not what he's there for. He was drawing fouls aka falling over whenever a player came close to him.
I really don't know why Ashley Young is picked when England's game plan relies on getting the wing-backs into space and hitting crosses. Trippier did that well but Young has no left foot. Rose should be in there.
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@no-quarter said in 2018 Football World Cup:
Really stoked they got through, I was certain they were done when the Colombia keeper made that save. Penalty shoot-outs really are a lottery, but the English can be happy they all kept their nerve and put their shots on target.
Agree with comments about the game, it was mostly pretty dire stuff. England look well coached, but they do lack - dare I say it - X factor. Think Kane needs to try and inject himself into the game more as he was drawing fouls when he had the ball near their goal.
Colombia seemed to have a similar plan to Panama - get in the English faces with niggle etc. Right at the end, and for the first half of ET they actually played some football and looked good. England to their credit put in a big effort in the second half of ET and created a couple of chances.
And I really don't see why they allow the players to run up spaz out at the ref about every decision. It's fucking nonsense and just wastes so much time - I really feel for the refs having to put up with that shit. Seeing a ref having to argue with a player about a decision is ridiculous - just make it captain only and card any other whiny little bitch that mouths off (see Aaron Smith v France for an example of how to deal with whiny little bitches).
Its ridiculous. FIFA could fix it all by empowering the refs. If there is bustling over a decision someone gets a YC, and he can keep giving them until they piss off. Like rugby only the captain should be able to question decisions
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@hooroo said in 2018 Football World Cup:
I actually thought England played well and controlled the game until they scored the goal and then got a bit of "what do we do now"
That was terrifying that shootout and I was very pessimistic.
Watched with a Venezuelan that was wearing an England shirt. When we got that final penalty he threw the worst double handed high five and palmed me straight in the nose and a finger in the eye. He didn't even know he had done it he was so ecstatic
We?
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@booboo said in 2018 Football World Cup:
@hooroo said in 2018 Football World Cup:
I actually thought England played well and controlled the game until they scored the goal and then got a bit of "what do we do now"
That was terrifying that shootout and I was very pessimistic.
Watched with a Venezuelan that was wearing an England shirt. When we got that final penalty he threw the worst double handed high five and palmed me straight in the nose and a finger in the eye. He didn't even know he had done it he was so ecstatic
We?
Hooroo is English. Like Brad Shields.
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@kiwipie said in 2018 Football World Cup:
As a football match that was awful - hardly a chance created and both teams complaining to the ref like teenagers. England controlled the game but never really looked like scoring - Colombia without their best player struggled to create a thing until they switched to route 1.
Can England make the final? Yes but Sweden must be eyeing it up as well and that quarter-final looks like being another awful game - hope I'm wrong. Both sides are strong in the air so it could resemble a lower league game with plenty of long ball.
England look good when they are buzzing around doing everything fast but the skills of players such as Sterling aren't really up to it and once their zip went in the 2nd half, they didn't seem to have any other plan - except for players to fall over to try to win free kicks and penalties. (Colombia looked like they were playing for penalties from the start).
The 2 halves of this draw definitely look like the penthouse and the outhouse with the quality of the games so far.
Sterling is so overrated. He has little feel for the game and doesn't provide any assistance to Kane. If he's fit I would put Ali in there, he can coast through large periods of the game but for Spurs he and Kane combine well, and he has the knack of popping up in the right place at the right time or he can play a dangerous ball. Young played one of his better games, which isn't saying that much. He offers no pace or width on attack
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@booboo said in 2018 Football World Cup:
@hooroo said in 2018 Football World Cup:
I actually thought England played well and controlled the game until they scored the goal and then got a bit of "what do we do now"
That was terrifying that shootout and I was very pessimistic.
Watched with a Venezuelan that was wearing an England shirt. When we got that final penalty he threw the worst double handed high five and palmed me straight in the nose and a finger in the eye. He didn't even know he had done it he was so ecstatic
We?
I'm not actually a Chief but when I refer to them when they win I say 'We won'
England is the football team I support along with The Gunners.
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Give the ref a fucking taser. Jaysus all that up in his grill business is a blight on the game. Light some fuckers up and throw in some cards.
For all it's a beautiful game football can be bloody hard to like.
Well done England!!
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I've been saying that what is needed is a new card, extra card.
An orange card, or green.
Given to players who hold on or push too much.
Two cards gets 10 minutes off the field.
That would create more space for players to dribble more, which is really missing at the moment.And I would like to see the yellow card causing missing the next game weakened to needing 3 consecutive, since the players must be extremely disappointed to miss world cup games, it's a little unfair.
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@paekakboyz said in 2018 Football World Cup:
Give the ref a fucking taser. Jaysus all that up in his grill business is a blight on the game. Light some fuckers up and throw in some cards.
For all it's a beautiful game football can be bloody hard to like.
Well done England!!
I agree. I thought that ref deserved a beer after.
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@bovidae said in 2018 Football World Cup:
@hooroo said in 2018 Football World Cup:
England is the football team I support along with The Gunners.
So you were supporting Ospina in the penalty shootout.
Twice in one night I agreed with the ITV commentator saying "Tottenham v Arsenal". Apart from the bit of sick in my mouth, I was very pleased with the outcome
