Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland
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@barbarian said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
It doesn't look good
No it doesn’t. Would look worst if the stills had arrows and accompanied by some creepy monotone voice calling him a cheat 😎
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@derm-mccrum said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
Jesus, to me Folau's contact with the left hand is incidental - he's already tipping over due to the initial contact and the single-lift. Incredibly harsh yellow.
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@mariner4life at 2:00
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8 likes, seems there are at least 9 Oprah watchers in da house.
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@infidel said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
8 likes, seems there are at least 9 Oprah watchers in da house.
minimum
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@rapido said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
Did the citing commisioner release anything re: the Henshaw head high?
I did a google search but all i can see are media stories on Folau.
Did it not reach a red card threshold? Just curious, so than I can keep my outragometer tuned at the correct level.@Stargazer This is the sort of thing you seem to know where to find?
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Well that made things completely clear then didn't it.
Run into an opponents legs by not jumping - red card on the ground, rescinded off the ground because the player was brushed 10 yards out.
Jump for the ball and hit another player who was lifted by his fellow team mate creating an obvious fulcrum point - yellow on the ground, upgraded to red after and banned.Clear as mud. Good work world rugby.
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@nta said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
Let's see if it sets a standard
Trouble being the Fall no-decision. Maybe Izzy's legal should have just quoted that.
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@booboo said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
@nta said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
Let's see if it sets a standard
Trouble being the Fall no-decision. Maybe Izzy's legal should have just quoted that.
Yep. ALB was in the same hemisphere as me which made me unbalanced.
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@majorrage said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
Well that made things completely clear then didn't it.
Run into an opponents legs by not jumping - red card on the ground, rescinded off the ground because the player was brushed 10 yards out.
Jump for the ball and hit another player who was lifted by his fellow team mate creating an obvious fulcrum point - yellow on the ground, upgraded to red after and banned.Clear as mud. Good work world rugby.
You nearly had it right. The yellow card incident was not up for consideration.
It was a separate incident that the citing was for. And it wasn’t for “hitting” the other player, it was for grabbing the other player and unbalancing him.
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I don't know how anyone can seriously argue that Folau didn't take the irish jumper in the air in that situation. Look at his arm wrapped around the guys chest. It is nowhere near the ball which he is trying to catch with his other hand.
As far as the lift goes. If you remove the contact from Folau he comes down fine. Its like blaming BB for jumping too high against france. -
@derm-mccrum wow your right - I just assumed it was same incident. Apologies.
So instead he got cited for an aerial challenge neither the ref or TMO had an issue with?
An aerial challenge??? I can get a punch or neck roll or something, but an aerial challenge?
This is horse shit.
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@majorrage said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
@derm-mccrum wow your right - I just assumed it was same incident. Apologies.
So instead he got cited for an aerial challenge neither the ref or TMO had an issue with?
An aerial challenge??? I can get a punch or neck roll or something, but an aerial challenge?
This is horse shit.
Eh no sorry, but he didn’t get cited for an aerial challenge either. Maybe have a look at the incident, (2nd of the three), read what the citing was for, and the result of citing panel review.
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@pukunui said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
I don't know how anyone can seriously argue that Folau didn't take the irish jumper in the air in that situation. Look at his arm wrapped around the guys chest. It is nowhere near the ball which he is trying to catch with his other hand.
As far as the lift goes. If you remove the contact from Folau he comes down fine. Its like blaming BB for jumping too high against france.He took the Irish jumper in the air, without a doubt. Clear penalty. The real question IMO should be if it deserves further sanction.
The problem World Rugby have created is the current Laws judge situations by outcome and not action. It could be the lightest feather touch on a jumper, but if he lands on his head you are off. If you charge blindly into his legs and he flips completely and lands on his feet it's just a penalty.
That, to me, is completely ridiculous.
I'm not outraged about Folau, but I think the judgement is a tad harsh. Clearly the actions of a third party (Stander) had an influence on the outcome, as the actions of ALB had an impact on the Fall/Barrett situation.
His actions deserved a penalty, maybe even a yellow. But I think the mitigating factors should have prevented a red card or suspension, as it clearly wasn't reckless or careless.
Regardless of this situation, the guidelines around aerial challenges are an absolute mess and need to be fixed ASAP. I'd suggest a move to base decisions around intent and action rather than outcome, and an acceptance that sometimes fair challenges will result in dangerous situations.
