Use of the TMO
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@majorrage although interestingly, seemed people were split as to who deserved a card on that; some both, some neither, some Cane, some Ofa
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It may have been said but I'll reinforce it.
Fall had responsibility to
A. know where players were and
B. avoid the collisionThat includes players running a straight line backwards which supposedly contributed to the collision. To me it reinforces his guilt not excuses it.
I'm not going into the politics of the Judiciary cop out.
The Naholo incident was very different, in the action of the catcher, the action of the interfering player, the timing of the interference and the landing of the catcher.
I agree with @taniwharugby that I could see justifiable outcomes ranging from no action through to bans for both Cane and Ofa. However I think they got close to getting it 100% correct, although Cane may have been lucky.
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Can the TMO work out forward passes please?
Or buy me a new TV
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@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
Can the TMO work out forward passes please?
Or buy me a new TV
No.
x2
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@mariner4life you just got one?
TMO can barely get other shit right, let alone requiring him to learn physics.
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@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
Can the TMO work out forward passes please?
Or buy me a new TV
No, because their view via a tv angle is as bad as yours. Refs are in best place to view, but the forward pass rule is currently 'wrong' imo. It's almost unrefereeable. This is of 'our' own making.
Personally, I'd like the rule to be it needs to go obviously backwards, but under current interpretations you'll gets just as many wrong decisions by TMOs IMO trying to rule inside passes on the 45 degree angle. It won't remove the controversy, just shift it.
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@rapido said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
Can the TMO work out forward passes please?
Or buy me a new TV
No, because their view via a tv angle is as bad as yours. Refs are in best place to view, but the forward pass rule is currently 'wrong' imo. It's almost unrefereeable. This is of 'our' own making.
Personally, I'd like the rule to be it needs to go obviously backwards, but under current interpretations you'll gets just as many wrong decisions by TMOs IMO trying to rule inside passes on the 45 degree angle. It won't remove the controversy, just shift it.
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@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
@rapido said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
Can the TMO work out forward passes please?
Or buy me a new TV
No, because their view via a tv angle is as bad as yours. Refs are in best place to view, but the forward pass rule is currently 'wrong' imo. It's almost unrefereeable. This is of 'our' own making.
Personally, I'd like the rule to be it needs to go obviously backwards, but under current interpretations you'll gets just as many wrong decisions by TMOs IMO trying to rule inside passes on the 45 degree angle. It won't remove the controversy, just shift it.
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A drone aerial camera would be cool actually
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@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
@rapido said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
Can the TMO work out forward passes please?
Or buy me a new TV
No, because their view via a tv angle is as bad as yours. Refs are in best place to view, but the forward pass rule is currently 'wrong' imo. It's almost unrefereeable. This is of 'our' own making.
Personally, I'd like the rule to be it needs to go obviously backwards, but under current interpretations you'll gets just as many wrong decisions by TMOs IMO trying to rule inside passes on the 45 degree angle. It won't remove the controversy, just shift it.
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Play tapeJob done
ignore physics?
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@mariner4life said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
@rapido said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
Can the TMO work out forward passes please?
Or buy me a new TV
No, because their view via a tv angle is as bad as yours. Refs are in best place to view, but the forward pass rule is currently 'wrong' imo. It's almost unrefereeable. This is of 'our' own making.
Personally, I'd like the rule to be it needs to go obviously backwards, but under current interpretations you'll gets just as many wrong decisions by TMOs IMO trying to rule inside passes on the 45 degree angle. It won't remove the controversy, just shift it.
Aerial camera
Superimposed lines on image
Play tapeJob done
ignore physics?
?
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@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
@mariner4life said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
@rapido said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
Can the TMO work out forward passes please?
Or buy me a new TV
No, because their view via a tv angle is as bad as yours. Refs are in best place to view, but the forward pass rule is currently 'wrong' imo. It's almost unrefereeable. This is of 'our' own making.
Personally, I'd like the rule to be it needs to go obviously backwards, but under current interpretations you'll gets just as many wrong decisions by TMOs IMO trying to rule inside passes on the 45 degree angle. It won't remove the controversy, just shift it.
Aerial camera
Superimposed lines on image
Play tapeJob done
ignore physics?
?
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@gt12 said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
@mariner4life said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
@rapido said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
Can the TMO work out forward passes please?
Or buy me a new TV
No, because their view via a tv angle is as bad as yours. Refs are in best place to view, but the forward pass rule is currently 'wrong' imo. It's almost unrefereeable. This is of 'our' own making.
Personally, I'd like the rule to be it needs to go obviously backwards, but under current interpretations you'll gets just as many wrong decisions by TMOs IMO trying to rule inside passes on the 45 degree angle. It won't remove the controversy, just shift it.
Aerial camera
Superimposed lines on image
Play tapeJob done
ignore physics?
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This is the problem.
You have 10 year old kids who could fly a drone up and down the field / fly by wire technology so you have perfect parallel lines at the time of ball release and we still have to look at footage as if it's shot from the commentator's box.
FFS
If we can watch Special Ops take out 'the enemy' thousands of miles from home. Live. Via drone. Surely to God we can work out 120 m worth of turf
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@gt12 said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
@mariner4life said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
@rapido said in Use of the TMO:
@mikethesnow said in Use of the TMO:
Can the TMO work out forward passes please?
Or buy me a new TV
No, because their view via a tv angle is as bad as yours. Refs are in best place to view, but the forward pass rule is currently 'wrong' imo. It's almost unrefereeable. This is of 'our' own making.
Personally, I'd like the rule to be it needs to go obviously backwards, but under current interpretations you'll gets just as many wrong decisions by TMOs IMO trying to rule inside passes on the 45 degree angle. It won't remove the controversy, just shift it.
Aerial camera
Superimposed lines on image
Play tapeJob done
ignore physics?
?
It really didn't help that this video was circulated last year by journo's up here as being bullshit and widely discredited. A classic case of tail wagging the dog.
When the IRB produce a video showing how something is ruled, then thats gospel, isn't it?
Gospel, by Gosper.
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I just put it up to show what the ruling is, and how it relates to physics (ie, a ball thrown backward can go forward).
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@gt12 said in Use of the TMO:
I just put it up to show what the ruling is, and how it relates to physics (ie, a ball thrown backward can go forward).
Which was appreciated.
And it's outdated / inadequate technology
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Ok, I’m caught up now
And, I think you’re wrong, so I’ll come back and explain why later.
Fuck it, it’s a short answer - it’s because the laws have to be observable for human refs on shitty fields, so tech only works at Super and above.
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@gt12 said in Use of the TMO:
Ok, I’m caught up now
And, I think you’re wrong, so I’ll come back and explain why later.
Fuck it, it’s a short answer - it’s because the laws have to be observable for human refs on shitty fields, so tech only works at Super and above.
No looking at a change in laws - rugby or physics.
Looking at a better and more accurate interpretation of those laws at matches where technology can be used.
There's no TMO for 'human refs on shitty fields' and yet the TMO is employed at the highest level.
This is the same.
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Apart from Wayne Barnes, I don't see a problem. The law doesn't permit the ball to be passed forward. It says nothing about the ball travelling forward.
