All Blacks v France Test 3
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@wreck-diver said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@billy-tell that's priceless. Is he blaming the AB's for the fall 😀
He implies that the brush with ALB on his way through was the reason Fall failed to leave the ground like the Saturn rocket that he clearly is.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@duluth said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
It was @gt12
If I have a few free hours Sunday or Monday, I might try to do the ‘Rewatch’ again for this weekend too. I’ll base my single player analysis on the fuss generated by the game thread
So, probably Ardie again
Mystery man Frizell would be a good candidate if he starts!
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
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@shark said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
We're lucky at hooker that Taylor has really stepped up in Coles' absence of that'd be another problem position.
I don't get this. Bemoan the fact the coaches haven't found players/backups in certain positions, then when there's a spot they have, it's just luck?
This. I am not willing to write the development of both Coles and Taylor off to luck. Someone in that set up knows how to get the best out of hookers.
Shit yeah. The coaches deserve a fucking heap of credit for Taylor especially - they picked him from relative obscurity as they really liked what they saw in terms of attitude and work ethic, and have developed him into a world class hooker. Other coaches would have picked the likes of Hika Elliot ahead of him at the time.
Same can be said of Coles really, when he was first selected he was seen as someone that shirked the tight stuff to look good on the wings. They got him not only pulling his weight in the tight, but consistently outstanding in this regard without sacrificing any of his loose play.
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@marty the brush with ALB that was a good 4m prior to him getting off the ground and didn't seem to affect the path he was running or his ability to run straight to the point where BB was, surely if ALB was a factor he'd not have gotten to the exact jump point, but more likely wide of it.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@gt12 said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@duluth said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
It was @gt12
If I have a few free hours Sunday or Monday, I might try to do the ‘Rewatch’ again for this weekend too. I’ll base my single player analysis on the fuss generated by the game thread
So, probably Ardie again
Mystery man Frizell would be a good candidate if he starts!
I'll do the Rewatch/"Reuben Thorne" watch on him. Now, can some one send me a picture of him so I know what he looks like?
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@taniwharugby Quite right, but Reason doesn't like to let irritating things like physics or facts get in the way of a good fairytale.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@shark personally think we're suffering an unprecedented injury crisis that I can't remember having to go through before.
Our depth is currently shit at prop yes?
Doesn't help that Hames, Laulala and Moli are out. All of a sudden that'd put Karl Mo outside the squad and leave one of our current THs out too.
Read. Have a feeling there's some potential 6/8s around who are injured (like Seu and others I can't think of).
Tim Perry is also missing from the loosehead props, but I'm inclined to think that might have been a blessing in disguise.
A No. 8 who could really come from "nowhere" is Whetu Douglas. He'll have to do it the hard way - through NPC later this year, but I reckon Hansen will be watching the Crusaders games prior to the play-offs if Whetu is playing.
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@crucial said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
I can understand giving AS the opportunity to make amends for a rare poor performance (especially on his home ground), but would have hoped that TJP was given a kick up the arse and TTT given the bench spot.
I don't think they would want TTT and Mo'unga debuting together off the bench.
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@shark personally think we're suffering an unprecedented injury crisis that I can't remember having to go through before.
Our depth is currently shit at prop yes?
Doesn't help that Hames, Laulala and Moli are out. All of a sudden that'd put Karl Mo outside the squad and leave one of our current THs out too.
Read. Have a feeling there's some potential 6/8s around who are injured (like Seu and others I can't think of).
Tim Perry is also missing from the loosehead props, but I'm inclined to think that might have been a blessing in disguise.
A No. 8 who could really come from "nowhere" is Whetu Douglas. He'll have to do it the hard way - through NPC later this year, but I reckon Hansen will be watching the Crusaders games prior to the play-offs if Whetu is playing.
Leaving off my list wasn't 100% a mistake
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
So, whats it gonna be, some spots not sure we can afford to start the rookies...
That team from Sumo looks pretty logical and I'm going to bet it's on the money.
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Barrett, Whitelock, Frizell, Savea, Whitelock, Smith, DMac, SBW, Goodhue, Ioane, Naholo, Smith
Tu'inukuafe, Coltman, Tu'ungafasi, Hemepo, Todd, Perenara, Mo'unga, JBarrett
The biggest surprise for me if this is the team is that they would have Jordie on the bench instead of a specialist midfielder - especially with Goodhue making his debut and SBW just back from injury. I'd have Crotty on the bench if fit and failing that ALB.
I'm a bit surprised Cane isn't playing despite being a bit off the pace last weekend. I wonder if he's still carrying that injury? Either Todd or Ardie could be starting/coming off the bench. Ardie offers more utility from the bench, so wouldn't surprise me if Todd starts - but, Ardie was in the original squad and Matt wasn't, so...
Hemepo able to cover the locks for injuries and Frizell in case he's a bust, makes sense and might add a bit more logic in terms of Ardie's utility value on the bench.
DMac starting and Mo'unga on the bench doesn't overly surprise me - since Damien already had a run last week, give him another for continuity. The bench would be more versatile if it was Perenara, DMac, ALB though.
Not at all surprised about the back three shuffle.
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
DMac starting and Mo'unga on the bench doesn't overly surprise me - since Damien already had a run last week, give him another for continuity.
If true, I worry about the mental state of the coaches. Contrast Mo'unga's display in the same position in the same competition. It's a no brainer.
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@antipodean I guess they are in the somewhat unenviable position of having to develop two test first fives before RWC.
So, I think they won't look at this game in isolation - rather as an opportunity to build DMac's confidence after what I thought was a reasonable outing last week. Richie making a 20 minute debut off the bench.
Agree with you that Mo'unga is the better prospect as a specialist first five, but I'm also pretty certain they're planning DMac as their supersub.
I suspect what they might planning is Mo'unga to get starts later in the season with Beauden covering him off the bench.
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@chris-b Rieko, Smith & JB are all (on paper) mid-field options too.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@chris-b Rieko, Smith & JB are all (on paper) mid-field options too.
Just not very good ones IMO.
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@chris-b Who said anything about good, there is a lot of not good stuff going on in selections presently...
I mean Rieko can play 11, 12 & 13, Jordie can play anywhere from lock to 15 and BFA can play 13-15...we got it covered.
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TJPs form has been pretty up and down this year, injury hasn't helped. He single-handedly blew the Blues off the park in his comeback game but has since been off the pace for whatever reason. I think he needs more rugby, though I do agree it would be good to blood TTT as he looks a promising player.
