Hesson gooooooone!
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@rancid-schnitzel most probably not Ranc. But it might suit a laconic type narrative. I posit that no professional cricketer would rather sunbathe than bat. Those fluffybunnies live for batting
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Thinking about the next coach and the obvious delight that us " stakeholders" would get from Flem or Dan taking the helm and the team ( with Kane) to unimaginable heights.
I can't see a way without a monumental sacrifice by either of the two afore mentioned; or Bondy.
The "part-time" salaries they already receive totally dwarf the comparative pittance NZC can offer, the months spent overseas and at HQ, and mostly, I fear, the bullshit media obligations indicate that the job's a bit of a fluffybunny.
Could it be that the job requirements of the blackcaps coach only appeal to up and comers looking to make a name for themselves - a bit like wee Mike did really?
Can we attract a Gary Kirsten like, i.e. a proven record and longevity, or do we have to make do with another newbie?
Someone promoted internally? I don't know of the personnel. Shit not Kyle Mills !
Interesting times for NZC
Candidate list will be interesting
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@siam said in Hesson gooooooone!:
@rancid-schnitzel most probably not Ranc. But it might suit a laconic type narrative. I posit that no professional cricketer would rather sunbathe than bat
Ever had a winter in Northern Europe?
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@siam said in Hesson gooooooone!:
Thinking about the next coach and the obvious delight that us " stakeholders" would get from Flem or Dan taking the helm and the team ( with Kane) to unimaginable heights.
I can't see a way without a monumental sacrifice by either of the two afore mentioned; or Bondy.
I'm not sure I'd be that keen on Dan yet. There's still people in the team that he played with. Plus he's had a term as NZ coach, while he was captain, sole bowler, main batsman and bus driver.
Following the AB prescription - maybe we should promote Craig McMillan?
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@chris-b oh dear, yes I'd forgotten about McMillan (shudder). Good points about Dan too, yeah na.
Could this be the first new coach appointment not compelled by a crisis ever in NZ cricket history?
Are there provincial coaches likely to be in the mix? I don't know much about them
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Hmm. My archetypal Macca moment was in that test when Astle went nuts at the end with his 222.
Sure it was a big total to get but if we just batted to not get out we'd get there at 2 an over.
Macca of course goes on the attack and tries to hit back over the bowler ...
Dunno why but that's always stuck in my craw.
That and dancing to leg to McGrath in the last over of that match where Flem nearly manufactured a win, instead of standing and hitting.
Hopefully those sort of things become the mistakes you learn from and make you an experienced coach.
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@booboo another scar was at Lords I think, 1st ball tries to smash/sweep Giles. Misses it hugely. Everybody WTF?
Does worse 2nd ball and misses again. Yup 3rd ball is bowled doing the same and 3 for fuck all turns immediately to 4 for fuck all.....sigh
Hopefully those sort of things become the mistakes you learn from and make you an experienced coach.☺
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Of the provincial coaches I would put forward Bruce Edgar.
He has 'moved down' from NZ selector to Wellington coach as I think he wanted to get more hands on. This after he left his 30 odd years in banking in Sydney. Seems like a guy who actually has the hunger after quitting playing early at 29 to pursue said business career.
If you'd asked me 6 months ago I'd say Edgar was a sitter for it as Wellington started with a hiss and a roar in all 3 comps, but they faded.
I don't think international cricket requires a superstar coach. Hesson, Trist and Aberhart have proved this.
I think the team needs an honest self-improving culture and someone who can keep that culture on the straight while senior players take on bigger leadership and strategy roles than other sports. -
Well done Mike Hesson.
I didn't have an opinion of him when he started, although I was very disappointed when John Wright quit.
I knew we were on the cusp of an amazing nz generation, and when the whole Taylor v Hesson thing happened in Sri Lanka I thought this was going to be another classic example of nz cricket shooting itself in the foot exactly when things started to look good.
Credit to Hesson, Baz, Taylor for working through that.
He was the right coach at the right time for the young but maturing team who chose his right captain who did an amazing job for him. For a low-key, low-ego guy I think that is the perfect outcome. One I didn't see possible in December 2012.
It's hard and pretty futile to judge how he rates among coaches. Eg he couldn't be more different to Rixon who was the perfect coach for the immature team he had. I really rate the work of Trist and Aberhart who took the by now mature Rixon team to higher heights.
You've also got to factor in Baz as Captain, Bond as bowling coach, Edgar as selector . Then also the players.
But anyway, well done him.