• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

All Blacks Squad for France

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
allblacks
727 Posts 75 Posters 69.1k Views
All Blacks Squad for France
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • rotatedR Offline
    rotatedR Offline
    rotated
    replied to Gunner on last edited by
    #266

    @gunner said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    What I find interesting is that a player like Frizzell won't even be in the Highlanders starting XV when Squire is back.

    Pretty standard these days to have guys picked for the ABs who don’t regularly start for their franchise.
    ...
    I’m sure there’s another one or two that I can’t think of right now

    Brendan Leonard. Colin Slade and to a lesser extent Israel Dagg at times.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • NepiaN Offline
    NepiaN Offline
    Nepia
    wrote on last edited by
    #267

    Shannon Frizell - WTF! Seriously, even setting aside the fact he's a poach, he's the worst selection in the ABs for a long time.

    Basically Akira has to move to a South Island team and do some of the mythical graft that @Machpants claims he doesn't do, despite the fact he's week in week out one of the hardest workers going un a bumbling Blues team. What graft has Frizell done in his 34 minutes per game he plays?

    Chris B.C pukunuiP 2 Replies Last reply
    13
  • Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    replied to Nepia on last edited by
    #268

    @nepia People from Ta$man are better people and better people make better All Blacks. 🙂

    Yeah - it's a strange one. Maybe they're going to give him a cap to lock him in as an AB?

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • pukunuiP Offline
    pukunuiP Offline
    pukunui
    replied to Nepia on last edited by
    #269

    @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    Shannon Frizell - WTF! Seriously, even setting aside the fact he's a poach, he's the worst selection in the ABs for a long time.

    Basically Akira has to move to a South Island team and do some of the mythical graft that @Machpants claims he doesn't do, despite the fact he's week in week out one of the hardest workers going un a bumbling Blues team. What graft has Frizell done in his 34 minutes per game he plays?

    Im trying to work out what graft work Fifita and Savea do that Akira doesn't as well.
    I could understand if all the guys infront of him were veterans and he just needed to wait for his chance but they are parachuting guys with less runs on the board in ahead of him.

    A 1 Reply Last reply
    9
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by
    #270

    My only surprise is Frizell over Akira, but overall it's a pretty good squad, considering the injuries.
    Would have preferred Todd over Ardie, but I think it will be like last year and Todd will make either the RC or EOYT squad.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • A Online
    A Online
    African Monkey
    replied to pukunui on last edited by
    #271

    @pukunui And unless Akira changes teams it'll probably continue. I seriously don't get it.

    TimT 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • 9 Offline
    9 Offline
    98blueandgold
    wrote on last edited by
    #272

    As Selectors pointed out its work rate and energy levels for Akira. ABs need the forwards to work, clean out rucks, link etc so backs can finish which is probably why Akira not chosen...in saying that I would have chosen him over Frizell 🙂 this french test series is to see if some are up to it. Tafua its make or break, as with Frizell. I can see why Ardie has been picked as well. With Tafua and Whitelock they are starters only, Ardie can play 8 of the bench which is very important for makeup of team. I wld suggest if Read is back playing 80min Ardie might need to play well to keep out Todd as an openside specialist.

    taniwharugbyT NepiaN Chris B.C BovidaeB MartyM 5 Replies Last reply
    1
  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
    replied to African Monkey on last edited by
    #273

    @african-monkey Hansen is in his dotage. Expect him to be out-coached by Schmidt again this year.

    1 Reply Last reply
    5
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to 98blueandgold on last edited by
    #274

    @98blueandgold if its energy levels, maybe they need to give him more Gatorade?

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • NepiaN Offline
    NepiaN Offline
    Nepia
    replied to 98blueandgold on last edited by
    #275

    @98blueandgold Where do they get Frizell's workrate stats from then?

    I don't have a problem with Taufua but Akira has been outworking him in nearly every stat this year. Clearly Akira needs to be in a team where he's not relied on to do 90% of the go forward so he can shine in the 'workrate' stats.

    9 1 Reply Last reply
    6
  • mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4life
    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #276

    @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.

    Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.

    Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.

    If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.

    TimT Chris B.C kiwiinmelbK 3 Replies Last reply
    6
  • Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    replied to 98blueandgold on last edited by
    #277

    @98blueandgold said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    With Tafua and Whitelock they are starters only, Ardie can play 8 of the bench which is very important for makeup of team.

    Not sure about that for Taufua. He's played a bit of openside at NPC, so at a pinch he could cover all three positions. If he's got a long term future in the ABs then I'd see it as an impact sub - playing the last 20 minutes, hopefully not compromising the lineout.

    antipodeanA 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #278

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.

    Barrett is so far from test quality. Can't see the point in picking him.

    1 Reply Last reply
    5
  • Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #279

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.

    Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.

    Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.

    If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.

    Pretty sure they'll start Luke Whitelock at No. 8. He played our previous test there.

    mariner4lifeM 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #280

    Kim Simperingham (Strength and Conditioning Coach) and Hayden Chapman (Assistant Performance Analyst) join the All Blacks management team.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4life
    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #281

    @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.

    Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.

    Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.

    If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.

    Pretty sure they'll start Luke Whitelock at No. 8. He played our previous test there.

    Colour me underwhelmed

    broughieB 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • BovidaeB Offline
    BovidaeB Offline
    Bovidae
    replied to 98blueandgold on last edited by
    #282

    @98blueandgold said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    As Selectors pointed out its work rate and energy levels for Akira. ABs need the forwards to work, clean out rucks, link etc so backs can finish which is probably why Akira not chosen

    Is "workrate and energy levels" a euphemism for masquerading on the wing ala Fifita?

    9 1 Reply Last reply
    14
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    wrote on last edited by
    #283

    havent people been moaning about how boring and predictable our squad namings have been in recent years 🙂

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • RapidoR Offline
    RapidoR Offline
    Rapido
    wrote on last edited by Rapido
    #284

    I don't watch enough of the teams to provide a knowledgable opinion.

    But my hunch is they've got the man-management wrong here. I reckon now is the time for the carrot for Akira, see how he goes in an elite environment.

    I have such a raging boner for the All Black lineout that Taufua's selection concerns me a bit. I'd be uncomfortable seeing him in the ABs in any other role than a Masoe-like role covering all 3 loosies off the bench. But I tip my hat to his dedication in reaching this awesome achievement, I can't say he hasn't deserved it.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelb
    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #285

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.

    Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.

    Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.

    If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.

    I don’t want to sound like a stuck record , the one bloke we couldn’t afford to lose was victor Vito , he should’ve been a priority to keep , couldn’t believe how he left with a minimum of fuss .

    nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
    3

All Blacks Squad for France
Sports Talk
allblacks
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.