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  • NTAN Offline
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    It has produced a couple of good tweets, if nothing else

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    So what do we reckon he'll get?

    4 weeks for an early guilty plea, discounted by 2 weeks for good record, mitigating factors and showing remorse?

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    @taniwharugby If I had to guess, they'd start with 6 weeks and it would end in a 3 week suspension. Might be a week more or less.

    Edited to add that my reason for expecting the mid range entry point of 6 weeks is that that was what they started at when they looked at Chance Peni's high tackle on Israel Dagg. Not the same offence, but similar in severity (albeit with a clearly different outcome; Beale could play on, while Dagg got injured and will be out of action for weeks). Peni ended up with a 5-week suspension because of his bad record.

    The dangerous tackle from Conraad van Vuuren also started at 6 weeks and ended in a 3-week suspension. Also: Scott Higginbotham.

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    @stargazer mate, you are so one eyed you make Canerbry look like a Blues supporter

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    Start at 6 weeks.
    -2 for guilty plea
    -2 for good record
    -2 for being a Crusader
    -2 for being an All Black

    So two extra weeks' pay for him, courtesy of the judiciary, and a hasty apology for dragging him into this mess.

    😉

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    @nta said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    Start at 6 weeks.
    -2 for guilty plea
    -2 for good record
    -2 for being a Crusader
    -2 for being an All Black

    So two extra weeks' pay for him, courtesy of the judiciary, and a hasty apology for dragging him into this mess.

    😉

    It’s been a while since the Aussie victim mentality had a chance to shine.

    That was an ugly fend, he’s lucky it didn’t do any damage. I’d expect four weeks off for that, but the judiciary is a random number generator so it could be anything from 1-6

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    Striking with the arm has low of two weeks, mid of four, then eight plus for high range offences. If it doesn't hit Beales head then two minus one (they always take off one) if it does then four minus one imo. The high end is for stiff arm tackles I think.

    Luckily he wasn't done for striking with the elbow which is 2, 6, 10+

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    @toddy said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    @stargazer mate, you are so one eyed you make Canerbry look like a Blues supporter

    So, where exactly do you disagree with my assessment that it should be a 6-week entry point? And what is wrong with my conclusion that it seems that he makes contact with the chest first? Have you seen other camera angles, because I haven't. I'd love to see them.

    It's easy to throw dirt at someone and make up arguments about being one-eyed, but I'd like to see where I'm doing that regarding Moody's (alleged) foul play. Or are you just going for the easy upvotes from one-eyed Blues fans?

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    @toddy said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    Just watched the video and it's even worse. How the fuck the ref and tmo missed that I've got no idea. Worst bit of reffing this season so far.

    The ref is watching the Saders backline which were quite deep, Moody was way up in front when he hit Beale. I could almost excuse the ref for not seeing it out of his field of view, but where the fark were the assistant refs and if they can't see that what are they doing there?

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    @nta said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    Start at 6 weeks.
    -2 for guilty plea
    -2 for good record
    -2 for being a Crusader
    -2 for being an All Black

    So two extra weeks' pay for him, courtesy of the judiciary, and a hasty apology for dragging him into this mess.

    😉

    You're missing -2 for a heartfelt apology on social media that brings a tear to the eye. Oh wait, no, that's a Wallaby thing.

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    @kirwan said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    @nta said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    Start at 6 weeks.
    -2 for guilty plea
    -2 for good record
    -2 for being a Crusader
    -2 for being an All Black

    So two extra weeks' pay for him, courtesy of the judiciary, and a hasty apology for dragging him into this mess.

    😉

    It’s been a while since the Aussie victim mentality had a chance to shine.

    That was an ugly fend, he’s lucky it didn’t do any damage. I’d expect four weeks off for that, but the judiciary is a random number generator so it could be anything from 1-6

    I didn't watch the game, I assume by what you've posted, Beale got up just fine?

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    @canefan the blindside AR should be looking at the last breakdown for foul play i.e. where the ball was

    The openside AR will be watching offside lines generally, and getting a lead on the potential try scoring - so where the ball will be.

    I don't think either bloke is looking for a guy running that far out of the line to cause obstruction.

    But the TMO has definitely clocked off there

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    @nta said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    Start at 6 weeks.
    -2 for guilty plea
    -2 for good record
    -2 for being a Crusader
    -2 for being an All Black

    So two extra weeks' pay for him, courtesy of the judiciary, and a hasty apology for dragging him into this mess.

    😉

    If Beale hadn't removed the sandpaper off the front of his jersey Moody's hand wouldn't have slipped up into his face in the first place. He's the real victim here 😉

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    @nta said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    @canefan the blindside AR should be looking at the last breakdown for foul play i.e. where the ball was

    The openside AR will be watching offside lines generally, and getting a lead on the potential try scoring - so where the ball will be.

    I don't think either bloke is looking for a guy running that far out of the line to cause obstruction.

    But the TMO has definitely clocked off there

    At that moment TMO must have been bending down to pick the hotdog he dropped

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    @canefan said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    @toddy said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    Just watched the video and it's even worse. How the fuck the ref and tmo missed that I've got no idea. Worst bit of reffing this season so far.

    The ref is watching the Saders backline which were quite deep, Moody was way up in front when he hit Beale. I could almost excuse the ref for not seeing it out of his field of view, but where the fark were the assistant refs and if they can't see that what are they doing there?

    Yes. That was really poor, but not particularly by the ref. He has one set of eyes and things get missed in real time, especially now that lawmakers let the 14 other non-ball carriers theoretically produce 14 immaterial offences.

    It's the TMO, that must have been replayed a few times? And he missed an obstruction compounded by a forearm.

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    @toddy said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:

    @stargazer mate, you are so one eyed you make Canerbry look like a Blues supporter

    He’s actually been quite reasonable in his assessment, I think 6 weeks is a fair starting point.

    I think you’ve been reading the blues thread and have seen an opportunity to get a few cheap likes by copying the “cool kids”

    Pretty pathetic really

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    @canefan the hotdog the passing Crusaders support team member just happened to drop in front of then 😉

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    @stargazer I agree with your six weeks comment. But I did enjoy your predictable photo stills jumping to the initial defence of a crusaders player. If only you were so defensive of nz players from other teams.

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    @sammyc I'm surprised you can even see an incident Sammy. Shirley you can only see Moody scoring the try...

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