Rebels v Crusaders
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@stargazer said in Rebels v Crusaders:
I still don't get why Barrett's try was disallowed. How could he knock on; the ball went backwards?
The ball was lost forward out of the hands.. It just happened to hit his leg and then come back..
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What a bullshit from Wessels
Wessels calls for greater Super Rugby equity
Rebels coach Dave Wessels has called for greater equalisation in Super Rugby, after his side’s 55-10 thumping at the hands of the Crusaders. The Rebels came back to Melbourne this week from their South African tour, facing the Crusaders, who opted to remain in Australia after beating the Brumbies last weekend, travelling down from Sydney. Though Wessels was quick to say travel challenges weren’t an excuse, he said more should be done to help historically struggling clubs when it came to the draw. “The championship team travelled a 45-minute flight or whatever it is,” he said. “We travelled 24 hours and that’s something Super Rugby generally has to look at. “One of the reasons AFL is so popular is they’ve got an equalisation model in whatever it is that they’re doing to give everyone a fair bite of the cherry and while the Crusaders might say at different times they have to do that travel, the difference is they’re a club that’s used to winning and have that momentum. “I think Super Rugby needs to think about giving the clubs that don’t have the momentum some of that because if you look at the success that AFL’s had with that model, why wouldn’t we be thinking about some of those things?” The Rebels were back in Melbourne on Monday, after a full day of flying back from South Africa, with Wessels saying jet lag was their biggest enemy ahead of a Friday night game. “I think if you were to ask me what has been our number one challenge this week it’s jetlag and the Crusaders didn’t have jetlag, the Crusaders came from Canberra,” he said. “They’ve had an extra day’s training because we had the flight and I’m not saying that’s an excuse`I just think it’s something that Super Rugby should be looking at because it certainly has made the week more difficult for us.”He's saying that the travel, the jetlag and having one less training day isn't an excuse, yet he is using it as excuse.
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@stargazer It's the world we live in. You're not allowed any excuses.
I think he's trying to frame it as a discussion, but I have a small reply for Dave.
We'll give you a slightly more favorable travel schedule, but you can swap with the Blues and come play in the NZ Conference for a couple of years...
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Very bad year to use the AFL as a model for anything.
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What a joke. So lets make it more equal by making it unequal. I'e got a suggestion for giving the Rebels a better travel schedule, cut them from super rugby so they can play in the nrc where they belong.
Also a bit of a joke to whinge about travel when the Crusaders went the whole 2011 season on the road and went one shitty ref call from winning the comp.
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Wessells blaming the travel but the Rebels had similar second half capitulations against both the Canes (when the Rebels played the week before at home) and the Tahs (when the Rebels played at home the week before and the Tahs had to travel from Argie).
Watching at the ground Rebels were really poor - especially after Genia went off - they looked like a club side - just not in the same league as the Crusaders. Not a great look for Super Rugby at all.
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So which AFL teams are in South Africa?
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@kiwimurph said in Rebels v Crusaders:
Wessells blaming the travel but the Rebels had similar second half capitulations against both the Canes (when the Rebels played the week before at home) and the Tahs (when the Rebels played at home the week before and the Tahs had to travel from Argie).
Watching at the ground Rebels were really poor - especially after Genia went off - they looked like a club side - just not in the same league as the Crusaders. Not a great look for Super Rugby at all.
This. He makes huge difference to that side.
As soon as he left the field, I said to Mrs gt12, at least I'll get one of my tips correct this week.
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@stargazer said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@nepia He is. More than 3 years in NZ.
Oh, I thought he arrived in 2016, did he arrive before that?
At any rate, personally, I don't think he should be playing for us no matter how good he is anyway ....
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Also re: Wessels, I know we're happily shooting the messenger because of when the message arrived, but the Super Rugby draw can be messed up sometimes, and I think supporters of every team have felt that at some stage of the competition.
It's like with the league, the Warriors got shafted last week with the draw - they may have got hammered anyway, but, the draw could have been improved to make things easier for them.
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@stargazer said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@nepia I saved the text of one of Mataele's instagram posts exactly to have this info. He arrived in NZ on 22 February 2015.
What's funny is that I was doing my calculation until 2017 anyway ... I lost a year.
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@nepia said in Rebels v Crusaders:
Also re: Wessels, I know we're happily shooting the messenger because of when the message arrived, but the Super Rugby draw can be messed up sometimes, and I think supporters of every team have felt that at some stage of the competition.
There's no doubt that at some points during the season every team gets a tough turnaround or its byes unevenly spaced, or a series of tough games, but that's a reality of playing a competition across five countries spread around the world.
I don't have too much sympathy for Dave, though, because I'd say the Rebels have probably the easiest draw of any team this year, along with the Brumbies. They're playing in the easiest conference, they get two games against the Sunwolves and six against other Australian opposition and they haven't had to go to Argentina.
He should take a look at the Jags' schedule, or the Sunwolves, or the Blues.
Edit: And the Rebs miss playing the Chiefs and Lions while the Brumbies miss the Blues and the Stormers.
I reckon there's a good chance they've got the easiest draw of anyone!
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Noticed a fair bit of grief going Havilis way. Seems pretty harsh! Thought he was OK and did some good stuff - especially on defence where from a scrum 5m from the crusaders line he was defending at ten and sent first the 8 back where he came from and then the 12.
