Hurricanes all time XV
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@canefan no room for Bull?
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@nepia Cully was that 'kind of' HB player too....
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@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes all time XV:
@nepia Cully was that 'kind of' HB player too....
He never played for HB (Vikings aren't the Bay you son of a bitch), Franks would fly in on a weekend and play 80 minutes before flying back to Christchurch.
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@virgil said in Hurricanes all time XV:
@no-quarter said in All time Blues XV:
@chris-b said in All time Blues XV:
@salacious-crumb said in All time Blues XV:
@act-crusader said in All time Blues XV:
Spencer full stop. No other 10 in Blues history comes close. Mertz was better though....
Oh, really?
#TwistsTheKnife
I reckon Tana needs two or three more years - he's definitely getting there!
Speaking of Tana, that's a good segway into an all time Canes backline. Dunno if it's worth making a new all time Canes XV thread as who knows what the pack would look like. Wouldn't matter though with:
TJP
Beauden
Lomu
Nonu
C Smith
Umaga
CullenOr would you lean more towards players who actually contributed to a successful era where the made 2 finals in a row including a break through first win?
Guys like Aso and Laumape?TJP, BB, Smith and Nonu were there for the first of those finals. Nonu and Smith would have to go close to forming an all time rugby XV midfield so would be a lock for the canes.
The props and locks are definitely where the quality of this team drops off a cliff.
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@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes all time XV:
@canefan no room for Bull?
He'd be in a tussle with Norm for the 3rd hooker spot
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@bovidae said in Hurricanes all time XV:
Thrush over Waller?
No mention of Vito or Tiatia amongst the loosies either.
Thrush could make a case, as for Vito and Filo, I'd have them both with Filo on the bench and Vito bracketed with Masoe.
I didn't have time to make the list complete, some of us are trying to work!!!
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@duluth said in Hurricanes all time XV:
I don't think anyone has mentioned Gordon Slater? He seemed like a consistently good prop even when the rest of the pack wasn't going well
I can't think of a less dynamic player with ball in hand.
Based on that logic he must have been a hell of a scrummager.
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@bovidae said in Hurricanes all time XV:
Thrush over Waller?
At best you got 70 minutes out of Waller as he was always yellow carded, and gave away more penalties than anyone else. Definately Thrush
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@mn5 said in Hurricanes all time XV:
@duluth said in Hurricanes all time XV:
I don't think anyone has mentioned Gordon Slater? He seemed like a consistently good prop even when the rest of the pack wasn't going well
I can't think of a less dynamic player with ball in hand.
Based on that logic he must have been a hell of a scrummager.
Based on that logic Jamie Macintosh must have been the worlds best scrummager.
Tito just for the tokenism would be worth a look. Or another All Black lock Bryn Evans....(I will fight to get some HB players in there)
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Could chuck Bill Cavubati on the bench for some impact late in the game. Holds the record for the heaviest international player weighing in at 165kgs for Fiji.
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@nepia said in Hurricanes all time XV:
I also don't think TJ is a lock at 9 - I'd take Piri, although Piri is a great sub as he reads the game so well so might be a plan to start him on the bench.
That's a fair point. Always felt he played his best footy for the ABs whereas TJP does well in the open style of SR. Tough call...
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@magpie_in_aus I'll add Karl Lowe.
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So we're looking at:
Ben Franks
Dane Coles
Neemia Tialata
Jason Eaton
Jeremy Thrush
Jerry Collins
Chris Masoe
Rodney So'oialo
TJ Perenara / Piri Weepu
Beauden Barrett
Jonah Lomu
Ma'a Nonu
Conrad Smith
Tana Umaga / Cory Jane
Christian CullenThat pack should be able to secure at least 20% possession, which is about all that backline would need to run up 50+ points.
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@no-quarter That pack actually looks decent TBH, decent scrummaging front row, two hard working locks, a bruising loosie trio and add the Superstar backs, this team could do well in the All time XV Super comp.
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@no-quarter said in Hurricanes all time XV:
So we're looking at:
Ben Franks
Dane Coles
Neemia Tialata
Jason Eaton
Jeremy Thrush
Jerry Collins
Chris Masoe
Rodney So'oialo
TJ Perenara / Piri Weepu
Beauden Barrett
Jonah Lomu
Ma'a Nonu
Conrad Smith
Tana Umaga / Cory Jane
Christian CullenThat pack should be able to secure at least 20% possession, which is about all that backline would need to run up 50+ points.
The JC Rodders Masoe era Canes were an excellent team. The one thing it really missed was a quality 10. I reckon we would have stood a strong chance of a title if we'd had one of the top 3 10's in NZ instead of Jimmy Gopperth (with due respect)
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@Nepia yeah the pack is better than I thought it would be, though I doubt it would compete with an All Black laden Crusaders XV. It's the drop off in class from Beauden to our next best 10 that is massive if you exclude Cruds who played his best footy for the Chiefs.
