Parker v ??
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I'm not an expert and there are plenty that know more than me here. Honestly, I am probs bitterly dissapointed but I thought Parker was the busier fighter and his double jabs to the body were keeping him ahead. His T-Rex length arms did not allow him to score as much as he would have liked but his head movement and evasion was class. Joshua sat back on an infrequent jab, walking Parker down threw the right and walked back out again. That's how I saw it.
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@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
I'm not an expert and there are plenty that know more than me here. Honestly, I am probs bitterly dissapointed but I thought Parker was the busier fighter and his double jabs to the body were keeping him ahead. His T-Rex length arms did not allow him to score as much as he would have liked but his head movement and evasion was class. Joshua sat back on an infrequent jab, walking Parker down threw the right and walked back out again. That's how I saw it.
Does the fight say as much about Joshua and the general state of heavyweight boxing nowadays though? Lewis was very cautious to avoid Tuas hook and rightly so but at no stage did AJ even look like putting JP away. He boxed his way to a clear victory as opposed to adding to the 20 from 20 KOs....
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Never seen a Parker fight where I thought, clever plan, good tactics. Ditch Barry. Forgettable boxer, no hope coach. And I reckon Parker can get into even better shape. And from what I say Joshua wasn't that troubled by inside work but he can be surprised by angles and sudden changes off either foot. Parker should be able to do that, shorter reach notwithstanding. Smaller waist faster lateral movements. Luckily, he is durable. Reading into Lennox Lewis' comments, I think the champ (who was a very clever boxer) agrees with me. In peak fitness you have the handspeed,you need better training, better tactics. Ditch Barry.
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I thought AJ deserved the win but wasn’t great. Parker was better than I thought he would be but if you’re going to gift your opponent the first 3 or 4 rounds you’d have to be pretty confident of your tactics for the later rounds. I saw nothing to suggest Barry had given Joe any though.
Overall, hated the fight, though not because of either of the fighters, or the ref. Those fucking commentators. WTF? Do they have to go to classes to learn how to talk while their mouth is full of AJ’s cock? I thought rugby comms were bad...
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@jc said in Parker v ??:
I thought AJ deserved the win but wasn’t great. Parker was better than I thought he would be but if you’re going to gift your opponent the first 3 or 4 rounds you’d have to be pretty confident of your tactics for the later rounds. I saw nothing to suggest Barry had given Joe any though.
Overall, hated the fight, though not because of either of the fighters, or the ref. Those fucking commentators. WTF? Do they have to go to classes to learn how to talk while their mouth is full of AJ’s cock? I thought rugby comms were bad...
Yep. Commentators full of wank and at the end of the day a really boring 'fight'. The heavyweight contest right before was way better.
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Great boxing commentators..Roy and H.G. discussing ringcraft 2:21 in..
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@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
I'm not an expert and there are plenty that know more than me here. Honestly, I am probs bitterly dissapointed but I thought Parker was the busier fighter and his double jabs to the body were keeping him ahead. His T-Rex length arms did not allow him to score as much as he would have liked but his head movement and evasion was class. Joshua sat back on an infrequent jab, walking Parker down threw the right and walked back out again. That's how I saw it.
Does the fight say as much about Joshua and the general state of heavyweight boxing nowadays though? Lewis was very cautious to avoid Tuas hook and rightly so but at no stage did AJ even look like putting JP away. He boxed his way to a clear victory as opposed to adding to the 20 from 20 KOs....
As Carl Froch said on the UK Sky commentary, 'that's why it's called boxing, not fighting '
Horses for courses.
AJ and camp had done their homework, recognised Parker's strengths and through boxing skill and ring & ref management negated most of his threat.
There's the old adage of 'a good gig 'un will beat a good little 'un.'
Add to that 'a man with a plan'.
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@mikethesnow said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
I'm not an expert and there are plenty that know more than me here. Honestly, I am probs bitterly dissapointed but I thought Parker was the busier fighter and his double jabs to the body were keeping him ahead. His T-Rex length arms did not allow him to score as much as he would have liked but his head movement and evasion was class. Joshua sat back on an infrequent jab, walking Parker down threw the right and walked back out again. That's how I saw it.
Does the fight say as much about Joshua and the general state of heavyweight boxing nowadays though? Lewis was very cautious to avoid Tuas hook and rightly so but at no stage did AJ even look like putting JP away. He boxed his way to a clear victory as opposed to adding to the 20 from 20 KOs....
As Carl Froch said on the UK Sky commentary, 'that's why it's called boxing, not fighting '
Horses for courses.
AJ and camp had done their homework, recognised Parker's strengths and through boxing skill and ring & ref management negated most of his threat.
There's the old adage of 'a good gig 'un will beat a good little 'un.'
Add to that 'a man with a plan'.
Agree 100%. Joe looked completely out of his depth at times and like a 'little' fighter, not someone 193cm!
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@mikethesnow said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
I'm not an expert and there are plenty that know more than me here. Honestly, I am probs bitterly dissapointed but I thought Parker was the busier fighter and his double jabs to the body were keeping him ahead. His T-Rex length arms did not allow him to score as much as he would have liked but his head movement and evasion was class. Joshua sat back on an infrequent jab, walking Parker down threw the right and walked back out again. That's how I saw it.
Does the fight say as much about Joshua and the general state of heavyweight boxing nowadays though? Lewis was very cautious to avoid Tuas hook and rightly so but at no stage did AJ even look like putting JP away. He boxed his way to a clear victory as opposed to adding to the 20 from 20 KOs....
As Carl Froch said on the UK Sky commentary, 'that's why it's called boxing, not fighting '
Horses for courses.
AJ and camp had done their homework, recognised Parker's strengths and through boxing skill and ring & ref management negated most of his threat.
There's the old adage of 'a good gig 'un will beat a good little 'un.'
Add to that 'a man with a plan'.
Carl Froch , did he mention when he fought in front of 80,000 at wembley ?
He loves to get that in , its become a piss take in online boxing pages
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Its funny , I came away from that fight thinking joe has a future in the sport , he may never be the number 1 , but not everyone can be number 1, but should still get some good pay days ,
I was concerned AJ would totally crush him , and that might be it for him , all over
26 is a very young heavyweight , while he lost , he still gave AJ some problems ,
landed some great body shots that he got little credit for , and frustrated AJ to a degree , he couldnt land his right hand at all , which was a first for him
Came a clear second but should be a better fighter for the experience
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Pretty dull fight.
Joshua planted himself in the middle of the ring for most of it and pressed forward behind his jab. Joe spent most of his time circling.
In a fight where no-one landed much of significance, AJ was always going to be racking up the rounds.
Joe looked like someone who's primary plan was not to get knocked down. Never took the fight to Joshua and that was what he needed to do - especially after the start.
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so I rewatched this arvo with a beer in hand. AJ won that fight. Not the landslide the judges implied but I was wrong.
Still think the ref ruined the contest and I think AJ was genuinely scared of JP. The ref clearly stepped in before JP could get his inside game going. in some cases before there was even a clinch.
But AJ did what he had to do and there's nothing wrong with that. I still like him as a fighter and as a champion but I think Wilder is going to knock him out. That'll be a shame because he's a classless fluffybunny that wants to kill someone eventually in the ring. He said this and meant it.
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So can someone explain how the boxing rankings for the 4 different belts work?
I don't understand how AJ isn't on the WBC/WBO lists at all and JP isn't on any but WBO.
Povetkin and Whyte seem to be ranked highly on all 4, is there any logic to this or is it just boxing politics?
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@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
so I rewatched this arvo with a beer in hand. AJ won that fight. Not the landslide the judges implied but I was wrong.
Still think the ref ruined the contest and I think AJ was genuinely scared of JP. The ref clearly stepped in before JP could get his inside game going. in some cases before there was even a clinch.
But AJ did what he had to do and there's nothing wrong with that. I still like him as a fighter and as a champion but I think Wilder is going to knock him out. That'll be a shame because he's a classless fluffybunny that wants to kill someone eventually in the ring. He said this and meant it.
Ironic, one woulda thought you were pissed based on your first review of the fight
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@rembrandt said in Parker v ??:
So can someone explain how the boxing rankings for the 4 different belts work?
I don't understand how AJ isn't on the WBC/WBO lists at all and JP isn't on any but WBO.
Povetkin and Whyte seem to be ranked highly on all 4, is there any logic to this or is it just boxing politics?
If you are a promoter , you put money in the boot of your car , walk into an office, hand over the money.
Your fighter then moves up the rankings.
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@jc said in Parker v ??:
I thought AJ deserved the win but wasn’t great. Parker was better than I thought he would be but if you’re going to gift your opponent the first 3 or 4 rounds you’d have to be pretty confident of your tactics for the later rounds. I saw nothing to suggest Barry had given Joe any though.
Overall, hated the fight, though not because of either of the fighters, or the ref. Those fucking commentators. WTF? Do they have to go to classes to learn how to talk while their mouth is full of AJ’s cock? I thought rugby comms were bad...
Yeah took us two rounds and we switched to the alternative commentary which was a kiwi guy who sounded like he had a mouthguard in. Called it pretty well though
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