Blues v Sharks
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@stargazer said in Blues v Sharks:
The Blues need way more than just a new coach though.
Yes they need a competent selector too
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If they have resigned Umaga for next year,in my opinion both of his assistant are gone burger,Alister the analyst from the All Blacks coaching staff Rogers who has coached nobody should be cut along with Steve Jackson..I would be getting Tom Coventry who is a very highly rated forward coach,his years with Hawkes Bay,the Chiefs and North Harbour in recent times is testament to that.
On this season,I guess if the season was’nt over before this evening it is now..!
I always thought the loss of both Famauina and Luatua would bite,but on saying that the forwards in the main have’nt been to bad this season.
This evening however they were absolutely owned by the Sharks forward pack,rag dolled at times.While a couple of the franchises have been hit hard with injury,the chiefs and saders especially what is starting to bite is the Blues quality of depth and once again you have got to question the people who recruit.
I also have got to question the leadership,they battled back to regain the lead only to see players kicking the ball away aimlessly,TJ Faine with 2 horrible kicks which gave the sharks ball to run straight back with interest to which the Sharks scored and restored the lead and their confidence
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@stargazer said in Blues v Sharks:
@kiwimurph The Blues need way more than just a new coach though.
Agreed. But new coach is definitely part of what they need.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues v Sharks:
@kiwimurph there is no one else and you need a coach right?
Im talking about next season.
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@kiwimurph problem is they have already signed Tana for next year..in most cases to save face with supporters,that’s the ones the ones like me that are still dumb enough to support this mob they will probably gas the assistants
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@steven-harris said in Blues v Sharks:
I always thought the loss of both Famauina and Luatua would bite,but on saying that the forwards in the main have’nt been to bad this season.
This evening however they were absolutely owned by the Sharks forward pack,rag dolled at times.The only game where the team turned up at kickoff was the first match against the Highlanders.
Something is badly wrong in the preparation. Are they flogging them during the week?Watching the home matches live, I would describe both efforts the same way - passive and confused
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@steven-harris said in Blues v Sharks:
problem is they have already signed Tana for next year..
Really??
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@duluth said in Blues v Sharks:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12023921
I've never seen a coach get more friendly press. The herald has never criticised him.
Now this article doesn't include the words "Tana" "Umaga" or "coach"
The article has been edited
Coach Tana Umaga liked the fact that his side played with more heart and urgency in Auckland than they did in Cape Town
Hi, Gregor Paul! Do your job and stop being a Umaga sycophant please! I await competent rugby journalism..
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@steven-harris said in Blues v Sharks:
@kiwimurph problem is they have already signed Tana for next year..
Source?
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@kiwimurph heard it through a journa
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Put myself through the pain again and watched the game again at home.
We kicked far too much ball away in this game, especially in that 1st half. You'd think the coaches would've relayed a message to the boys during halftime to stop kicking when we're not deep, but we kept kicking in the 2nd half. We even kicked a few times when they had a man in the bin - geez.
Akira and Patty were stand-outs in the pack. Outside of those two, the rest of the pack played soft.
Both 10s weren't good and lacked game sense. I wanted to chop Perofeta's leg off in that first half.
Moala was good out on the wing. Defense is still a bit off, but it was his best game for us in a while. I'd keep him out on the wing next week if Nanai is out.
Outside of two poor kicks, Faiane put in a massive shift and was one of the few guys who brought energy throughout the whole game. Need to give him and Rieko more game time together.
Seeing the lack of talk by the so-called leaders during breaks is so damning, although that's not too surprising, because it's kind of been that way for awhile.
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@duluth said in Blues v Sharks:
@steven-harris said in Blues v Sharks:
problem is they have already signed Tana for next year..
Really??
Patrick McKendry wrote about it a few weeks ago. Basically said the Blues have extended him, they just haven't announced it. They definitely won't announce it now when we're losing. If we go on a mini-run of wins, you can bet they'll announce it then.
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Bring Back Jed Rowlands.
Seriously, Tana is possibly the worst coach we’ve ever had. If he had any class he’d resign after that performance.
This is the third game this season we’ve given up an early 19 point deficit. The team is not prepared well and looks very disorganised. The only way we score is off individual brilliance. When we go back to the dumb arse game plan it all looks disjointed and ends up with aimless kicking.
The board has to sack him. How many 60 point losses will it take I wonder?
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My 2c.
Perofeta. Seriously disappointing. Fucking hopeless in the first half. And quite lame in the second. Give me DMac any day. Will never be an All Black. No wonder they start Gatland.
Quite impressed with the Shorks. Big. Strong. Fast...
Literally laughed hysterically when Perofeta scored the go-ahead try.
How the hell do you then concede that many points?
Akira still looking like an AB 6/8.
So. If you're planted with 2 feet on the ground before someone jumps. Then that someone jumps and falls over you why is that guy not carded? All you were doing was standing there. Crap ruling.
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Man, these are tough times for Blues supporters.
Had a good night overall with the boy, was fun getting along to Eden Park, but fucking hell the Blues are exasperating to watch. The crowd got into it as best they could, made some noise and tried to generate some atmosphere, but the Blues just didn't show up to play. Honestly the fans deserve so much better than that.
At one point I looked at my boy and he was sitting there with his head in his hands after the Sharks scored yet again. I'm starting to think I shouldn't be subjecting him to this, it's getting borderline child abuse. Poor little man - we've been to a few Blues games now and he's still yet to see them win a game live.
A few random thoughts anyway:
- The Blues were taking an age to get back onside after a half break, and they missed a fucking shitload of straightforward tackles. The defense was utterly woeful, every time the Sharks had the ball you thought they were going to score.
- On the flip-side, the Blues actually looked very dangerous with ball in hand and scored some very good tries, albeit more through individual brilliance than anything else.
- So given they actually looked dangerous with ball in hand, why the hell did they keep kicking it? And not just kicking, but fucking awful kicks.
- When the Sharks had a man in the bin the Blues decided to keep the ball in hand and they started carving up. Then when he came back on they reverted to type - Faiane's two kicks were criminal and a big moment in the match - the Sharks promptly scored after being gifted possession on a platter and the momentum swung back their way. But the woeful kicking was a feature throughout. Just utterly braindead stuff.
- Rieko is wasted at 12. Every time there was something on I thought "spin it to Rieko... oh wait he's not out there to take advantage of the space". He's the best winger in the world, get him the fuck back on the wing.
- Moala should be on the other wing - he's powerful as fuck and his lack of passing/vision is not an issue out there. He played well.
- Akira was awesome again, and it was great to see Pat T hitting a bit of form. His try was the moment of the night.
Conceding 63 points at home to the Sharks, who are pretty fucking far from the best team in the comp (the Rebels slapped them!) is absolutely nowhere near good enough. It's one thing to lose, but to lose in that manner then heads have to roll. Sorry Tana, the buck stops with you.
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@kirwan said in Blues v Sharks:
Bring Back Jed Rowlands.
Seriously, Tana is possibly the worst coach we’ve ever had. If he had any class he’d resign after that performance.
This is the third game this season we’ve given up an early 19 point deficit. The team is not prepared well and looks very disorganised. The only way we score is off individual brilliance. When we go back to the dumb arse game plan it all looks disjointed and ends up with aimless kicking.
The board has to sack him. How many 60 point losses will it take I wonder?
Agree. Wellington were transformed with their new coaches. So Gibbes (with Bell) could be one quality option although they need another year to prove themselves. although I don't want to lose him. But also dislike seeing a display like this one. It was poor. Tana has had his time. Time to bite the bullet and move on.
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@booboo said in Blues v Sharks:
My 2c.
Perofeta. Seriously disappointing. Fucking hopeless in the first half. And quite lame in the second. Give me DMac any day. Will never be an All Black. No wonder they start Gatland.
Quite impressed with the Shorks. Big. Strong. Fast...
Literally laughed hysterically when Perofeta scored the go-ahead try.
How the hell do you then concede that many points?
Akira still looking like an AB 6/8.
So. If you're planted with 2 feet on the ground before someone jumps. Then that someone jumps and falls over you why is that guy not carded? All you were doing was standing there. Crap ruling.
Perofeta was rubbish. What a disappointment. He looks like he needs to spend more time in the gym. I wonder in general what the player conditioning is like with the Blues as the players seem a bit underdone.Whereas with the Canes players are transformed.
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@duluth said in Blues v Sharks:
@duluth said in Blues v Sharks:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12023921
I've never seen a coach get more friendly press. The herald has never criticised him.
Now this article doesn't include the words "Tana" "Umaga" or "coach"
The article has been edited
Coach Tana Umaga liked the fact that his side played with more heart and urgency in Auckland than they did in Cape Town
Hi, Gregor Paul! Do your job and stop being a Umaga sycophant please! I await competent rugby journalism..
That is hilarious that the article was edited. Paul if you’re still reading the Fern, will the Blues have to lose to the Reds before you provide some critical analysis of Umaga....
