HB Club Rugby 2018
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@stockcar86 said in HB Club Rugby 2018:
@number-10 said in HB Club Rugby 2018:
Starts this Saturday 24 March.
Change of format of the Nash Cup with two pools culminating in quarter-finals, semi-finals and final.
Really, a 10 team competition, and the top 8 make the playoffs. I fail to see the need for this - let the top 4 just play semi-finals
The Nash Cup format was approved by the clubs, or majority clubs, at the 8 November Club Delegates meeting.
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Here's more about the new format:
New format sees Magpies available for Maddison Trophy final
For the first time in many years Premier Clubs will have the full services of available Magpie players (not those playing in Super Rugby) right through to the final of the Maddison Trophy Final. Club Rugby manager Gary Macdonald says the number of games across the season has been reduced by 20 to 19 games– over the Nash Cup and Maddison Trophy Rounds, so that there’s still a good gap before the Magpie season gets underway. “The Maddison Trophy Final is usually in August but it will now be held on August 28. By having Magpie players available will breathe life into the competition and there’s some great new talent set to be on show this season.” To enable the Maddison to feature Magpie players, the Nash Cup has been split into 2 pools of five clubs. After the pool round robin there’s quarters, semis and the final. Gary says the teams are ranked based on their placings last season with pool 1 is 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and the other pool being 2, 4, 6, 8 and 10. Each week in both pools there will be 2 competition games as well as a cross over game, which will not be for any points. Gary says the concept has been well supported by the clubs, but the onus is on them to support it during the season and ensure that although the cross over games don’t earn points, the game must be played. “They’re aware that if the default, there will be fines. But also this is a new concept and it’s not set in stone. We can look at it again at the end of the season and if it’s not working we can come up with something else. In other grades the town and country division also starts this weekend while the 3rd and colts will start on April 7 and the women’s competition in June.I assume that date of the Maddision Trophy Final is meant to be July 28.
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Interesting bits about player movements, captains etc. from the article below:
Fans will be keen to see whether or not the Chris Johnston-captained side which has won their last 34 games in Nash Cup and Maddison Trophy play will stay on target to match or better the Hawke's Bay record of 46 consecutive wins set by Clive from 1999 to 2001.The departure of last year's captain and hard-working loosie, Aaron McPhee, to Australia is a huge blow for the Hayden Hann-captained Pirate outfit.Progressive Meats Havelock North first five-eighth J'andre Liebenberg thought his playing career ended when he experienced his fifth bout of concussion in 2015. He has obviously ticked all the necessary boxes and is on the villagers roster for the season. Another key player returning to the Havelock North team is former Highlanders, Magpies and Southland speedster Ryan Tongia. Havelock North club life member and club captain Tom Blake was also happy to add United States loosie Tony Lamborn's and Spain inside back Dan Snee's names to his squad list after they both indicated they could fit club play around their international commitments.Former Magpie Simon Halford has returned as the villagers head coach and his forwards are likely to operate tighter, lower and with more cohesion under his watch than they did last season.The Clive engine room will miss the services of prop Nathan Bruce and former Magpies hooker Jorian Tangaere who have both retired.Magpies locks Tom and Ben Parsons and former Manawatu hooker Travis Taylor as well as experienced loosie Warwick Slingsby have all returned to their home club [Central].Interesting additions to the Taradale squad include loosies Vinny Guildford and Kaleb Sweet and utility back Nathan Ramsay who played for Napier Tech last year and Taradale age group product Ashton Tuck who was one of the province's most gifted speedsters in his youth.Jarks Tamatea head coach Matt Marsh has recruited well during the summer with former Hastings Boys' High School prop Kianu Kereru-Symes and first five-eighth Lincoln McClutchie and former East Coast lock Everard Reid among his key gains.http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12019100
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Watched Clive v Havelock North. Havelock North won 36-17.
Ryan Tongia played fullback for Havelock and scored two tries showing good pace. On the right wing was Willie McGoon (Canterbury and Mid Canterbury rep) looked sharp and scored one try.
Last year's Auckland lock Sam Ulufonua played the whole 80 and is a big boy. Made a few runs and it usually required two men to stop him. Oddly, in most lineouts Havelock placed him in the midfield of the backline on both their own throw and Clive's throw, so don't really know how effective he is in the lineouts.
Tony Lamborn was there but did not play, he was taking out the kicking tee. Apparently he has just arrived back from the USA.
Shannan Chase seems to have retired. He was on the sideline helping out the Otane Sports team in the curtain raiser v Clive Development team.
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Taradale beat central 95 0.Hastings won 36 17.MAC beat Tamatea 55 21 some shock results there.
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Round 1 - Tui Nash Cup Premiers:
Hastings Rugby and Sports 36 (M Emerson 3, F Matamata, A Vuki, J Rihia tries; D Toala 3 cons), Napier Technical 17 (J Taulagi 2, T Walters tries; J Bristol con). HT: 24-12.
Napier Old Boys Marist 68 (S Weber 2, S Tucker 2, M Thompson, E Wilson, L Edwards, W Benson, M Buckley, S Lauano tries; Edwards 8, Wilson cons), Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 9 (Z Clarke 3 pens). HT: 28-9.
Taradale 95 (D McIntyre 3, N Ramsay 2, L Luamanu 2, J Byrne, J Apikotoa, A Mufana, A Gardner, L Maulolo, K Whakataka, A Tuck, W Woolly tries; B Truesdale 4, Whakataka 3, McIntyre 3 cons), Central 0. HT: 38-0.
Havelock North 36 (R Tongia 2, W McGoon, J Wylie, J Liebenberg tries; Liebenberg 4 cons, pen), Clive 17 (C Karauria, C Tautau, S Maui tries; T Poto con). HT: 17-5.
MAC 55 (S Iosua 3, F Selesele 2, F Loli 2, T Iosefo, V Kereti tries; Kereti 2, Iosefo 2, Selesele cons), Tamatea 19 (D Neho, E Reid tries; A Robinson 3 pens). HT: 26-9.
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That winning margin to Taradale is something of a shock considering how poorly Taradale did last year when not making the Maddison Trophy playoffs. Their team really seems to have been strengthened this year.
They have recruited 2016 NZ Under 20 lock Lui Luamanu from Wellington, midfielder Lester Maulolo who played for Wellington in 2016, and prop Joe Apikitoa who has played for Wellington the last three years. All three of them scored tries against Central.
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@number-10 said in HB Club Rugby 2018:
Nash Cup Round Two - Friday 30 March
Tech OB v NOB Marist
Usual jug @Higgins ?
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@stockcar86 Naturally, although every time I front up to pay up I generally have to drink it myself by default!
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Watched Tech OB v Napier OB Marist.
Napier OB Marist struggled to keep their winning run going but eventually did so with a 35-25 win, five tries to three, having to come from behind to win.
Tech led 25-21 midway through the second half, but OB Marist scored two more converted tries, the last one by Ellery Wilson was right on fulltime, the last act of the game.
The Tech scrum was well superior, loosehead Mark Braidwood was clearly better than the two tightheads he faced.
Having said that, it was the NOBM forwards who contributed more to their win. The backline did not offer much of a threat at all apart from Mitchell Drew on the left wing.
Tech had an interesting backline. JJ Taulagi scored a try and kicked two penalty goals and 2 conversions. Certainly has talent but has a quick temper which saw the referee have to calm him down a couple of times.
In the second half Tech brought on Sebastian Visinia at centre, played for Auckland Under 19 last year at the Jock Hobbs tournament. Is a big unit.
The Magpies coaches were there watching the game.
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Round 2 - Tui Nash Cup Premiers:
Taradale 30 (D McIntyre, K Hewitt, N Ramsay, N Martin, E Tareha tries; McIntyre con, pen), Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 8 (T Symes try; Z Clarke pen). HT: 15-3.
Napier Old Boys Marist 35 (J Lauano, M Buckley, E Gerrard, P Bickle, E Wilson tries; L Edwards 5 cons), Napier Technical 25 (J Taulagi, T Walters, J Saufoi tries; Taulagi 2 cons, 2 pens ). HT: Tech 17-14.
Hastings Rugby and Sports 66 (M Emerson 3, D Toala 3, T Taliu, J Makris, J Rihia, E Chung Ching tries; Toala 4, T Vaiusu 4 cons), Clive 21 (R Nuku, S Purotu, R Pohatu tries; J Henry 3 cons). HT: 42-0.
Tamatea 38 (R Paewai 2, S Takano 2, J Harmer, K Kereru-Symes tries; A Robinson 4 cons), Central 27 (T Parsons 3, C Pratt tries; B Hardwidge 2 cons, pen). HT: 31-15.
Havelock North 35 (R Tongia 2, J Paewai, T Brown, P Taulanga tries; T Spooner-Neera 2 cons, 2 pens), MAC 22 (J Ika 2, F Selesele tries; V Kereti 2 cons, dropped goal). HT: MAC 17-16.
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@stargazer I think I saw the name of Hika Elliot listed in an article for club rugby recently. Has he finished up in France then ?
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@kiwidom said in HB Club Rugby 2018:
@stargazer I think I saw the name of Hika Elliot listed in an article for club rugby recently. Has he finished up in France then ?
He was listed in the tamatea squad in the paper,perhaps the journo didn't research it properly.
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Only just found the article that - I think - @Kiwidom and @kiwimatrix were referring to. Team lists!
WIT Napier Old Boys Marist Forwards: Chris Benson, Adam Slobbe, Lee Moleili, Jack Nelson-Murray, Terry Marsh, Matt Thompson, Kane Paterson, Tyler Symone-Bourke, Sean Skeet, Willie Benson, Ricky Hayes, Chris Johnston, Matth Gardner, Hannon Brighouse, Backs: Sam Weber, Zac Donaldson, Ellery Wilson, Johnny Lauano, Paul Bickle, Shae Tucker, Migao Lauano, Saia Paese, Mitch Drew, Craig Sharplin, Dan Sharplin, Sonny Lilo, Sammi Lauano, Liam Edwards, Michael Buckley. Coaches: Craig Gowler (Head Coach), Steve Bennett (Assistant Coach). Captains: Chris Johnston (c), Johnny Lauano (vc). Key Gains: Shae Tucker, Michael Buckley, Saia Paese, Tyler Symone-Bourke, Kane Paterson. Major Losses: Mike King, Jarvy Aoake, Tom Bywater. 2017 Nash Cup finish: 1st. 2017 Maddison Trophy finish: 1st.Tanalised Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports Forwards: Sean Morrison, Nick Agnew, Pouri Rakete-Stone Jr, Damian Scott, Jesse King, Gerome Naera, Ryan Gardner, Hamish Willis, Ormond Heather . Backs: Mitsuhide Matsuyama, Josh Kennedy, Zion Clarke, Tione Hubbard, Matt Hill, Al Moimoisea, Kane Nepe-Apatu, Hayden Hann, Ted Symes, Sam Lewis. Coach: Pouri Rakete-Stones Snr. Captain: Hayden Hann. Key Gains: Damian Scott, Hamish Willis. Major Losses: Aaron McPhee (Australia), Naua Auisele (retired). 2017 Nash Cup finish: 9th. 2017 Maddison Trophy finish: 5th.Altherm Window Systems Napier Technical Forwards: Mark Braidwood, Tere Joel, Perrin Manuel, Lani Latu, James Hughes, Bailey Galbraith, Tauese Fatialofa, Elijah Martin, Todd Cushing, Jordan Faia, Slade Lange, Travis Jenson. Backs: JJ Taulagi, Niue Vaimoli, Levi King, Junior Saufoi, Tane McGuire, Ted Walters, Sam Giddens, Dylan Ramsay, Misi Lealaisalona, Johnny Bristol, Tamati Samuels, Sebastian Visinia. Captain: Tere Joel. Coaches: Asa Ene and David Briggs. Key Gains: Perrin Manuel (East Coast), Bailey Galbraith (Pirates), JJ Taulagi (Brisbane), Niue Vaimoli (NOBM), Sam Giddens (NOBM), Junior Saufoi, Sebastian Visinia (Auckland). Major Losses: Izzy Martin (Retired), Sam Mann, Kaleb Sweet (Taradale), Nathan Ramsay (Taradale), Tim Farrell (injured). 2017 Nash Cup finish: 4th. 2017 Maddison Trophy finish: 3rd.Hastings Rugby and Sports: Forwards: Jacob Devery, Filipe Domonibitu, Ben Hamelink, Jason Long, Jono Makris, Desmond Manuo, Fale Matamata, Angus McGuire, Paulo Nu'u, Tamatikahu Ratapu, Jon Scales, Toe Taliu, Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Aleki Vuku, Mark Ioane. Backs: Thomas Agnew, Enoka Chung Ching, Jardine Chung Ching, Mason Emerson, Folau Fakatava, Ausage Fomai, Ioane Ioane, Sione Kite, Jayden Rihia, Saifiti Saifiti, Star Timu, Danny Toala, Timo Vaiusu. Captains: Ben Hamelink and Jason Long. Coaches: Tivaini Fomai, Hayden Lafaele, Bevan Lynch, Adam McDonald. Key Gains: Filipe Domonibitu, Folau Fakatava, Sione Kite, Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Danny Toala, Aleki Vuki. Major Losses: Ben Parsons (Central). 2017 Nash Cup finish: 3rd. 2017 Maddison Trophy finish: 4th.Carters Frame and Truss Taradale Forwards: Joe Apikotoa, Reese Aranui, Jack Byrne, Andrew Gardner, Vinny Guildford, James Humphrey, Josh Kupa, Lui Luamanu, Kelsey Miller, Angelo Mufana, Kaleb Sweet, Ellery Tareha, Jordan Kupa, Petera Smith. Backs: Thomas Eden, Karl Hewitt, Niki Martin, Lester Maulolo, Daniel McIntyre, Nathan Ramsay, Ashton Tuck, Kaleb Whakataka, Wade Woolly, Brad Truesdale. Coaches: Mutu Ngarimu, Jason Shoemark. Captains: Andrew Gardner and Kaleb Whakataka. Key Gains: Joe Apikotoa, Lui Luamanu, Lester Maulolo. Major Losses: Chris Eaton, Jacob Baker. 2017 Nash Cup finish: 5th. 2017 Maddison Trophy finish: 9th.Northfuels Central Forwards: Simon Brayben, Travis Taylor, Mitchell McFadden, Cam Pratt, Apolosi Ranawei, Tama Nepe-Apatu, Ben Bennet, Ben Parsons, Tom Parsons, Jason Cutbush, Scott Mathias, Tomo Fogarty, Warwick Slingsby, Wilbur Redwood, Trei Nepe-Apatu. Backs: Tim Sciascia, Tom Beachen, Braydon Hardwidge, Jack White, Cole Eru, Pasqualle Dunn, Lewis Marshall, Karl Lepelaars, McKenzie Oliver, Anthony Maaka, Steven Baker. Coaches: Exham Wichman (Head coach). Brad Higgs (Backs coach). Captain: Tomo Fogarty. Key Gains: Tom and Ben Parsons, Travis Taylor, Lewis Marshall, Pasqualle Dunn, Warwick Slingsby. Major Losses: None. 2017 Nash Cup finish: 7th. 2017 Maddison Trophy finish: 7th.K9 Pet Foods Clive Forwards: Adam Jones, Tinirau McIlroy, Kereama Peni, Kevin Becker, Rana Huata, Joseph Leota, Nathan Bruce, Tamatoa Higgins, Ben Taylor, Rana Huata, Tali Faiumu, Dusky Pineaha, Lucas Goodin, Josh Eden-Whaitiri, Rocky Pohatu, Api Sione, Jesse Tuhua, Karl Lowe, Beau Tresidder, Xavier Hill, Manase Uaisele, Rapa Nuku, Mackay Sione, Sam Purotu, Viliamu Malaitai, Joe Winter. Backs: Bronson Hokianga, Jacob Henry, Moses Riley, Tianua Poto, Duff Penitito, Willy Schuster, Shannon Hawea, Sean Hiroki Kaka, Eti Collins, Elijah Tuavera, Sakapo Ofa, Cory Tautau, Peter Bassett, Brendon Pena, Charlton Karauria, Stephen Tonnies, Luke Odumesi, Sosefo Maake. Coaches: Vaine Maui (Head Coach), Sam Ebbitt (Assistant Coach), Des Allen (Technical Advisor). Captains: Lucas Goodin (Captain), Josh Eden-Whaitiri and Tianua Poto (Vice Captains). Key Gains: None. Major Losses: Jorian Tangaere, Nathan Bruce (both retired). 2017 Nash Cup finish: 6th. 2017 Maddison Trophy finish: 2nd.Progressive Meats Havelock North Forwards: Jack Van Bussel, Chad Harris, Sam Lamborn, Wayne Lush, Phillip McRoberts, Sam Matson, Matt Phillips, Bronson Primmer, Te Kakau Ririnui, Jonty Strong, Paea Taulanga, Sam Ulufonua, Jasper Wylie, Devan Flanders, Tony Lamborn, Jacob Stephenson Backs: Teihana Brown, Taylar Greville, Trent Hape, J'andre Liebenberg, William McGoon, Isaac Paewai, Jesse Paewai, Kalin Paewai, Luke Rurawhe, Ryan Tongia, Mikey Vuicakau. Coaches: Simon Halford, Richard Jarman, Ben Spriggens, Adam Bradey. Captains: Isaac Paewai, Phillip McRoberts. Key Gains: William McGoon (Christchurch), Ryan Tongia (Southland), J'andre Liebenberg (from injury), Jacob Stephenson (HBHS), Jasper Wylie (Colts), Sam Ulufonua ( Auckland), Trent Hape (HBHS). Major Losses: Adam Blake (injured), Liam Murphy (injured), Ethan Bradey (to Sydney), Semisi Tonga-ofa (overseas), Shannan Chase (injured). 2017 Nash Cup finish: 2nd. 2017 Maddison Trophy finish: 6th.MAC Forwards: Aminga Mikaele, Faleminga Selesele, Frank Tupuola, Kenny Makonia, Walter Fareni, Chad Huirama, Teina Huia, Kome Palaamo, Lexus Tiki Greening, Kaleo Olotua, Matini Atapana, Talivaa Iuli, Faletolu Leaega, Larry Olive. Backs: Tom Iosefo, Vailoa Kereti, Brigham Morley, Alexander Brown, Iafeta Taau, Faleniu Ioli, Samu Iosua, Filimoni Asolua, Sale Esekia, Tivoli Vaa, Johnny Ika, Alatise Peko (Apprentice). Coaches: Len Huia, Anthony Morley, Jim Edwards. Captains: Vailoa Kereti, Tom Iosefo, Faleminga Selesele. Key Gains: Frank Tupuola, Faleminga Selesele, Tivoli Vaa, Faleniu Iosi, Iafeta Taau, Johnny Ika, Walter Fareni, Teina Huia (Returning), Lexus Greening (Returning). Major Losses: None. 2017 Nash Cup finish: 10th. 2017 Maddison Trophy finish: 8th.Jarks Tamatea Forwards: Alex Kireka-Starnes, Hika Elliot, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Teaomarama Tomoana, Mason Kean, Te Maangi Hamlin, Tama Hutana, John Wong, Witere Kupa, Ivan Bellamy, Hamiora Rowlands, Dillon Solomon, Everard Reid, Henare Harris, Pohaitere Ross, Jamie Muir, Buffy Wainohu, Mosez Hawkins. Backs: Toshi Amino, Mataeus Marsh, Wayne Nikora, Lincoln McClutchie, Colin Hokianga, Jordarn Harmer, Shota Takano, Terira Rowlands, Jarom Mareikura, Jimi Harris, Ash Robinson, Roger Paewai, David Neho. Coach: Matt Marsh. Pou Tikanga: Don Hutana. Captain: Mason Kean. Key Gains: Kianu Kereru-Symes, Witere Kupa, Dillon Solomon, Everard Reid, Toshi Amino, Lincoln McClutchie, Shota Takano, Roger Paewai, David Neho. Major Losses: None. 2017 Nash Cup finish: 8th. 2017 Maddison Trophy finish: 10th.@Kiwidom As you can see, Hika Elliott is named in the Tamatea squad. Odd. Maybe he'll return from France, once the Top 14 season is over? Although his contract was for two seasons (including 2018-19), but you never know. With only four round robin games to go, Oyonnax is a good candidate for relegation to the Pro D2. @kiwimatrix may be right though.
No Trent Boswell-Wakefield, although I think he returned from overseas last week. I guess these line-ups aren't set in stone.
nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12019027
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@stargazer Yeah I thought he'd signed in France for two years, so was surprised to see him listed. Maybe as mentioned it was a typo, or he will turn out for a couple of games during his 'off season'... With the number 6 on his back
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Watched Hastings RS v MAC. Hastings RS won 46-13.
Selesele and Tom Iosefo did not play for MAC; Jacob Devery did not play for Hastings RS. All three are in the Magpies 52-man training squad.
Danny Toala was at first-five for Hastings. Looks to have bulked up a bit since last year. Kicked seven out of eight. Wasn't afraid to take on the line and made a couple of breaks. Didn't show much of a kicking game out of hand.
Halfback Folau Fakatava only played the final 30 minutes and looked impressive. Good pass, had the confidence to kick a couple of times - a good high ball which one of his team mates retrieved, and a good crossfield kick into the MAC 22 that bounced out. Also took on the line a couple of times - excellent variation. Also had no problem yelling at his forwards. Stick him in the Magpies behind Brad Weber this year, I reckon.
Mason Emerson scored a stunner of a try in just the second minute. Intercepted a pass in his own 22, ran 80 metres down the touchline with four MAC players coming across to try and get him. Two couldn't get near him, the third went high and just slowed him, he broke free to score in the corner in the tackle of the fourth.
The big tighthead prop Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe played the first 50 minutes at number eight. Was hard to stop when the ball was given to him, but looked better went he went into the front row. Played the whole 80, though.
Toala, Fakatava and Tavita-Metcalfe all just 19 this year in their first year out of Hastings BHS.
