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  • NepiaN Online
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    @Bovidae What a misleading headline (and first couple of paragraphs).

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    @bovidae Geezus, what a crap article again, especially that title. Stuff has a habit of writing articles with fake news titles, in which they twist the facts in order to solicit anti-women's rugby/sports comments. And that obviously all for the clicks! Looking at the comments, that has worked again.

    Either that, or they don't know the difference between association and causation. The extra costs may coincide with integrating the men's and women's event (association), but that doesn't necessarily mean that that has caused the extra cost. The men-only event in Cape Town also didn't attract big crowds in the early games, and that's where they staged the women's games in Sydney. And boo-hoo, the date was close to Australia Day; we have a men's leg of the Series close to Waitangi Day every year. Hamilton is sold out, and not because it's a men-only event. And that Foo Fighters concert being a reason, don't make me laugh. There are big name concerts all over Summer every year, nothing new. Step up your marketing.

    At least they're mentioning that the Fox Sports ratings have gone up by 13 percent.

    The women's final drew 62,000 viewers on Sunday afternoon while the men drew 70,000 - a solid result given it was competing with the Australian Open tennis final and the ODI cricket between Australia and England.
    
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    @nepia
    @Stargazer

    Yep, it's from the SMH and the author (female) has an agenda to push. 🙂

    The $775K is just the lost income from gate sales across the event and not directly related to having a combined event.

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    The 700k figure is a bit misleading, as it assumes the crowd would be identical if the event were held on the same weekend as last year.

    Ultimately the event suffered a little bit of third year syndrome. The long weekend didn't help (plenty of people went out of town), but after the phenomenal success of the first two years I think a chunk of that crowd would have given the event a miss this year - they'd 'ticked it off the list' and wouldn't feel the need to return.

    I think 7s events have a bit of a shelf life in a city (with the exception of Hong Kong) and RA would be smart to move it every 3-4 years to keep it fresh. Wellington is a good example of what not to do, though I acknowledge all the other factors at play there.

    53k is still a pretty decent crowd, considering how poor the event was before it moved to Sydney.

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    You have some good ideas in there @barbarian. It would be better to have an Australian sevens, a NZ sevens, etc and move it around each year. It is a festival event and most people don't want a rinse and repeat (apart from HKG as mentioned).

    If you could get your people to talk to the IRB, I will book my tickets for the Queenstown sevens.

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    @snowy You're not fired up for sponsoring the Mahurangi Sevens?

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    @tim said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

    @snowy You're not fired up for sponsoring the Mahurangi Sevens?

    I would definitely be on for that.

    Guthrie Bowron Mahu Sevens, hmmm.

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    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11984529

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    I am staggered that NZRU would consider selecting a player in this situation. They used to be very careful in checking out the eligibility of any player considered for selection. Now it seems like an attempt to enforce eligibility as early as possible. Was he even named in the squad after the national sevens? And how come a single Super Rugby player was included, with all others excluded?

    On another matter, I am angry at the compulsory shift to cashless wristbands at the Hamilton sevens. i.e. no cash or eftpos. I have an inbuilt mistrust of over-charging on cards, so always pay cash at stalls. The mathematical skills of those serving at stalls at Waikato Stadium was diabolical last year. Now you just present your wrist for an auto-deduct? Makes it a lot harder sending my son off to collect a drink or a carton of chips now too.

    Worst of all is the repeated promotional line: "We recommend that you overestimate what you'll spend over the weekend, topup online, and then collect your refund at the event" ....assuming it has not been damaged between Friday and Sunday. You might also need to visit a vendor before you leave to know what is still left. Of course there are fees added to each transaction. I wonder how much extra profit they will collect by imposing all these new rules!

    I will be interested to know public reaction afterwards, and hope this is never repeated.

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    @arhs

    I'm not going to the sevens but I have an aversion to giving any money to Montana Catering. I'd be asking for a receipt for every transaction.

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    @arhs said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

    I am staggered that NZRU would consider selecting a player in this situation. They used to be very careful in checking out the eligibility of any player considered for selection. Now it seems like an attempt to enforce eligibility as early as possible. Was he even named in the squad after the national sevens? And how come a single Super Rugby player was included, with all others excluded?

    I agree. And nope, Nanai-Seturo wasn't named in the wider training squad for Sydney. Joe Webber's injury seems to have led to his inclusion in the final tournament squad.

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    they have just been discussing this on Radio Sport...some interesting opinions being spouted (especially the old League v Rugby ones)

    One fella said good riddance for him to go with the useless Blues...haha from the Warriors?? 🤔

    Sorenson claiming they felt they were within their rights to play him (legally speaking) another caller (very anti league I might add) claiming that the way the contract from the Warriors came about was not above board, not sure what info he was (or thinks he was) privy to.

    All very silly...I also don't expect we will ever end up with the full story of the ins and outs.

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    @taniwharugby said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

    One fella said good riddance for him to go with the useless Blues...haha from the Warriors?? 🤔

    Blues are too useless to even sign him. He's gone to the Chiefs.

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    @kiwimurph yeah I thought I had read/heard he was down that way, but facts do not need to be involved in a good old rugby v league bashing session!

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    @kiwimurph I'm really hoping that Auckland bring on Lavea will help to reverse this trend.

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    @taniwharugby said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

    @kiwimurph yeah I thought I had read/heard he was down that way, but facts do not need to be involved on Radio Sport

    fixed

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  • NepiaN Online
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    @bovidae said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

    @nepia
    @Stargazer

    Yep, it's from the SMH and the author (female) has an agenda to push. 🙂

    The $775K is just the lost income from gate sales across the event and not directly related to having a combined event.

    Hmm, her agenda seems to be excluding women? I've actually seen her on the Fox sport show and she can be good value (then again she's usually there with Kearns so anyone will look good next to him).

    As @Stargazer correctly notes the issue here was with the marketing - I had no idea this was on, neither did my mate in Manly I caught up with on the weekend.

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    I don't really like the cashless system, there will be fees and the food won't be that cheap. We can go out and go back in right? I will pack lunch for my son and I and go down the road for tea I think.

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    Just read that there are no re admissions.

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    Then I read that there will be pass out on a different part of the website.

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