Veitch is done
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@antipodean said in Veitch is done:
@milk said in Veitch is done:
I'm not a fan of his and can't understand how he gets such great interviewees. I hate his (and Devlin's for that matter) fake over-the-top laugh at his guests' jokes, the sycophantic questions or the massive preamble distancing himself from a point of view before asking a 'tough question'.
I never understood how he got a job again. I disliked the majority of his interviews, his "we're best mates" presentation style and his utter lack of analysis. I often thought to myself how small a pond New Zealand must be for this clown to have a gig.
That said, the list of his co workers celebrating his exit is weird, particularly that Heveldt guy... who I only know because he appeared with Veitch on the NZHerald videos. All these people who have kept their mouth shut but now that it's not controversial or unsafe career wise, they pile on.
See Weinstein...
Yeah, it really does remind me of what's happening in Hollywood right now in terms of some of the bandwagon-ing.
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@kirwan said in Veitch is done:
Not a fan of Veitch, but pretty uncomfortable that after going through the courts for his assault he is now being re-punished by losing jobs.
I'm not. His career is in the public eye. This isn't a private citizen we're talking about and if a prospective employer does the maths and on reflection decides it's best he doesn't work for them, so be it.
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@antipodean said in Veitch is done:
@kirwan said in Veitch is done:
Not a fan of Veitch, but pretty uncomfortable that after going through the courts for his assault he is now being re-punished by losing jobs.
I'm not. His career is in the public eye. This isn't a private citizen we're talking about and if a prospective employer does the maths and on reflection decides it's best he doesn't work for them, so be it.
Fine to have that opinion if you're consistent with it. As was mentioned further up, a few All Blacks (for example) not held to the same standard.
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@kirwan said in Veitch is done:
Not a fan of Veitch, but pretty uncomfortable that after going through the courts for his assault he is now being re-punished by losing jobs.
He beat up a woman, I’m pretty happy I’d hes punished for a wee bit longer
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@kirwan said in Veitch is done:
Not a fan of Veitch, but pretty uncomfortable that after going through the courts for his assault he is now being re-punished by losing jobs.
How did he lose this job due kicking a woman in the spine until he broke it? It looks from the news reports it was his idea to leave and start a new show of his own which I will also avoid like all his previous shows even before his assault charge.
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As I've mentioned previously I'm a big fan of George Moala so was fucken disappointed and to be honest gobsmacked that he got away with what he did without a conviction. Contrast that with Zac Guildford who I pretty much couldn't stand for keeping Hosea Gear out of the ABs, I, and plenty of others, were really keen to put the boot in for his extra curricular activities.
I think the thing with Veich is that no one particularly liked him for reasons mentioned before ( smarmy, arrogant fucktard ) so I guess it became easy to have a go. I'm as guilty as any on here for this but I wonder how things would have gone if he were a broadcaster who people actually liked?
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@nta said in Veitch is done:
Hey @Virgil just wanted to check you're ok.
Has Veitchy given out his new Facebook page, so you don't have long too wait until you can like and share some Aussie bashing smarmy bullshit?
@Virgil hold that thought while I chuck a bag of Act 2into the microwave
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@bovidae said in Veitch is done:
I never listened to him so no loss to me. I’ve always referred to Veitch as the hyperactive chipmunk.
He lost me as a listener eons ago when he had the morning spot and Dean Lonergan as a regular guest. As far as I could figure out, Lonergan was there to make unbelievably gross remarks about women and Veitch's job was to chuckle along like Butthead.
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@nta said in Veitch is done:
Hey @Virgil just wanted to check you're ok.
Has Veitchy given out his new Facebook page, so you don't have long too wait until you can like and share some Aussie bashing smarmy bullshit?
I think your confusing me with another Aussie midget lover, I don’t follow his fb page
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I'd put him on suicide watch if he isn't already.
I don't like the guy and he should never have been allowed back in to return to broadcasting but I'm not OK with the tweets and stuff. He's gone. Mission accomplished. We don't want to be hearing about how he felt bullied in a tell all a year from now.
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Oh, can't see a problem with him losing his job/s. He should never have been let back in the first place. It's not about not being allowed to reform. OK you feel sorry and youre ready to prove it. Good that's all society can ask. However it doesn't mean you should get your old job back. It means you can be a law abiding citizen that keeps his fucken hands to himself and finds work in another area. Outside of the privileged career you threw down the toilet when you broke a women's back, fluffybunny!
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@raznomore said in Veitch is done:
Oh, can't see a problem with him losing his job/s. He should never have been let back in the first place. It's not about not being allowed to reform. OK you feel sorry and youre ready to prove it. Good that's all society can ask. However it doesn't mean you should get your old job back. It means you can be a law abiding citizen that keeps your fucken hands to himself and finds work in another area. Outside of the privileged career you threw down the toilet when you broke a women's back, fluffybunny!
This is why I love your work Raz
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@milk said in Veitch is done:
I wonder if the fact he never seemed to take responsibility stopped him getting rehabilitated in the public's eye?
Just surmising but I get a sense of the current #MeToo #WarAgainstWomen cultural climate and can imagine that management was concerned at staff & family Christmas parties being repeatedly asked, “Gee, with people losing jobs over bum-pinching it does seem pretty incredible Vietchy still has a job after violently putting the boot into his sheila, doncha think?” Maybe the weight of that question got really-really heavy & tiresome, and management had no good answers.
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@salacious-crumb said in Veitch is done:
@milk said in Veitch is done:
I wonder if the fact he never seemed to take responsibility stopped him getting rehabilitated in the public's eye?
Just surmising but I get a sense of the current #MeToo #WarAgainstWomen cultural climate and can imagine that management was concerned at staff & family Christmas parties being repeatedly asked, “Gee, with people losing jobs over bum-pinching it does seem pretty incredible Vietchy still has a job after violently putting the boot into his sheila, doncha think?” Maybe the weight of that question got really-really heavy & tiresome, and management had no good answers.
Is there a good answer?
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@catogrande said in Veitch is done:
@salacious-crumb said in Veitch is done:
@milk said in Veitch is done:
I wonder if the fact he never seemed to take responsibility stopped him getting rehabilitated in the public's eye?
Just surmising but I get a sense of the current #MeToo #WarAgainstWomen cultural climate and can imagine that management was concerned at staff & family Christmas parties being repeatedly asked, “Gee, with people losing jobs over bum-pinching it does seem pretty incredible Vietchy still has a job after violently putting the boot into his sheila, doncha think?” Maybe the weight of that question got really-really heavy & tiresome, and management had no good answers.
Is there a good answer?
No
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@salacious-crumb said in Veitch is done:
@milk said in Veitch is done:
I wonder if the fact he never seemed to take responsibility stopped him getting rehabilitated in the public's eye?
Just surmising but I get a sense of the current #MeToo #WarAgainstWomen cultural climate and can imagine that management was concerned at staff & family Christmas parties being repeatedly asked, “Gee, with people losing jobs over bum-pinching it does seem pretty incredible Vietchy still has a job after violently putting the boot into his sheila, doncha think?” Maybe the weight of that question got really-really heavy & tiresome, and management had no good answers.
Wouldn't the answer be - he did lose his job when that happened (multiple jobs in fact) and subsequently went through the court system and it is now 10 years on and NZME believes in rehabilitation and a second chance.
You don't have to agree with it, but there is a coherent argument for it (which is why he has had the gig for the past five years - it's not as if this wasn't discussed at the time he was rehired).
Public sentiment is fickle. If you take the six or seven big cases of this nature in NZ sport over the past decade - and public opinion on a case by case basis is massively inconsistent. The only constant seems to be forgiveness is only available to those the public like.
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@jegga said in Veitch is done:
Can someone point out to me where it says his past history cost him this job?
How he didn’t do time for what he did I’ll never know , quite happy for his sentence to be forever reminded of his behaviour in lieu of jail though.
The fact he didn't do time always showed me that there are two sides to a story, and perhaps not all facts declared in court went public.
You can't avoid jail time for the anti vietches version of what happened. You just can't.
