Black Caps vs Windies Series
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@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@chris-b said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@snowy said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Not that I think it will happen in this case, but Doull (I think) made the point that the highest successful run chases were mostly only 4 or 5 wickets down. Who knows what they might have chased down if they hadn't won in the meantime?
Yeah - part of the complexity of that stat is that the strongest teams are usually dominating the game, so usually only have a handful of runs to knock off if they're batting 4th. Weaker teams often getting set big totals because they've failed in the first innings and are set to fail again.
Like a lot of big stats in cricket, you've got to be presented with an opportunity. Still surprising to me how few scores there are over 400 in the 4th innings though (just 20 out of nearly 2300 tests).
So fair to say a Windies team of extremely modest talent doesn't have a chance?
There's always a chance of extraordinary things happening in cricket.
I saw a Sri Lankan team that's barely won an ODI this year humiliate the Indian top order this week.
Sadly Dhoni saved them from the complete annihilation that was pending at 29/7.Edit: But, I doubt there's anyone - even in the Caribbean - optimistic enough to be putting even a dollar on the Windies.
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@gunner said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Love Doull as a commentator
Agreed, he is very good!
Although no TV at work, let alone Sky... so I'm stuck with the Fern and Cricinfo
I'm watching on my phone with SkyGo
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@gunner said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Love Doull as a commentator
Agreed, he is very good!
Although no TV at work, let alone Sky... so I'm stuck with the Fern and Cricinfo
#firstworldproblems
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@virgil said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
200 wickets up for Boult, great achievement.
First fast lefty for NZ to take 200 wickets?Yep I believe so. Great effort. He got their only remaining semi decent player as well ( I use that term rather loosely ). Only 398 to get with seven wickets in hand. Actually Chase has useful stats and a very appropriate name....
Doull has always been good value for good quality humour combined with genuine cricket knowledge.
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@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@gunner said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Love Doull as a commentator
Agreed, he is very good!
Although no TV at work, let alone Sky... so I'm stuck with the Fern and Cricinfo
I'm watching on my phone with SkyGo
Yes, I'd like to do the same, but I'd get a tap on the shoulder pretty quickly for using too much mobile data on the work phone if that were the case...
It's tough I tell ya!!!
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@gunner said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@gunner said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Love Doull as a commentator
Agreed, he is very good!
Although no TV at work, let alone Sky... so I'm stuck with the Fern and Cricinfo
I'm watching on my phone with SkyGo
Yes, I'd like to do the same, but I'd get a tap on the shoulder pretty quickly for using too much mobile data on the work phone if that were the case...
It's tough I tell ya!!!
Bloody tough life bruv!! We have wifi at work to utilise
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@crucial said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Boult, Southee and Wagner are ranked 6,12 and 4 on the all time NZ averages.
In 1973 we had a lineup of Hadlle, Collinge, Bruce Taylor (supported by Dayle Hadlee and Congdon). Hadlee was only starting out but on the all-time list these guys are ranked 2, 7 and 3
Nash, Doull and Cairns are up there when you look at it this way as well. 5,8 and 9
Just a shame that Bond never had any backup.
2001-2 in Oz Bond, Martin, Cairns, Vettori with Astle as 4th seamer would be up there with current attack and the one from early mid 70's as our best ever. Nash and O'Connor were also in the squad.
That team also had a reasonable batting line up but I'd say for consistency the one from the mid 80's is our best ever. The team that won the second test at Trent Bridge had 8 guys with test centuries to their name
Rigor,
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ODI squad vs WI named
Kane - 1st ODI
Todd Astle
Trent Boult
Colin de Grandhomme
Lockie Ferguson
Matt Henry
Tom Latham (wk)
Adam Milne
Colin Munro
Henry Nicholls
Tim Southee - 1st ODI
Ross Taylor
George Worker
Neil Broom - 2nd and 3rd ODIs
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@mimic said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
ODI squad vs WI named
Kane - 1st ODI
Todd Astle
Trent Boult
Colin de Grandhomme
Lockie Ferguson
Matt Henry
Tom Latham (wk)
Adam Milne
Colin Munro
Henry Nicholls
Tim Southee - 1st ODI
Ross Taylor
George Worker
Neil Broom - 2nd and 3rd ODIs
Mitchell Santner - 2nd and 3rd ODIsNo Neesh or Anderson. Interesting.
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@dogmeat said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@crucial said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Boult, Southee and Wagner are ranked 6,12 and 4 on the all time NZ averages.
In 1973 we had a lineup of Hadlle, Collinge, Bruce Taylor (supported by Dayle Hadlee and Congdon). Hadlee was only starting out but on the all-time list these guys are ranked 2, 7 and 3
Nash, Doull and Cairns are up there when you look at it this way as well. 5,8 and 9
Just a shame that Bond never had any backup.
2001-2 in Oz Bond, Martin, Cairns, Vettori with Astle as 4th seamer would be up there with current attack and the one from early mid 70's as our best ever. Nash and O'Connor were also in the squad.
That team also had a reasonable batting line up but I'd say for consistency the one from the mid 80's is our best ever. The team that won the second test at Trent Bridge had 8 guys with test centuries to their name
Rigor,
On paper that bowling looks shit hot but Bond was still learning, rocked it in the ODIs but his test bowling took a while to develop. Cold play wasn’t at his best then either
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@virgil said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@dogmeat said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@crucial said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Boult, Southee and Wagner are ranked 6,12 and 4 on the all time NZ averages.
In 1973 we had a lineup of Hadlle, Collinge, Bruce Taylor (supported by Dayle Hadlee and Congdon). Hadlee was only starting out but on the all-time list these guys are ranked 2, 7 and 3
Nash, Doull and Cairns are up there when you look at it this way as well. 5,8 and 9
Just a shame that Bond never had any backup.
2001-2 in Oz Bond, Martin, Cairns, Vettori with Astle as 4th seamer would be up there with current attack and the one from early mid 70's as our best ever. Nash and O'Connor were also in the squad.
That team also had a reasonable batting line up but I'd say for consistency the one from the mid 80's is our best ever. The team that won the second test at Trent Bridge had 8 guys with test centuries to their name
Rigor,
On paper that bowling looks shit hot but Bond was still learning, rocked it in the ODIs but his test bowling took a while to develop. Cold play wasn’t at his best then either
Bond hit the ground running from day dot didn't he?
