Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV
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that tackle in the air had to be a YC IMO, it was one of the few where it obviously was not just a mistiming or a clash, but a straight up tackle of a bloke being a meter up in the air. I don't care whether he lands on his legs, his arse or his face, that had to be more than a penalty. Ref was OK in general play, though, very consistent and letting stuff go at the ruck.
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@stargazer said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Hansen just confirmed this was TKB's last game. Congrats to a good All Black, who would have gotten more caps if he hadn't had two better players ahead of him. Great NZ career, and a pity he's going overseas. Good luck to him in France!
Best AB on the park IMO. Best tackling halfback I've seen in a while
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Nathan Harris is poor mans Corey Flynn
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@canefan said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
@stargazer said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Goodhue yellow carded for a tackle off the ball. Hmmm
He did interfere with the runner but actually fell over and inadvertently tripped him. That's what happens when you put yourself at the mercy of the ref
He put up an arm when he ran into the guy then they tumbled.
Was Veldsman the TMO? Or dome other Shaun/Sean?
The TMO protocols were awful. Comms problrms or no comms problems.
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Aumua has talent but he is finding out international rugby is a different beast than U20s and M10 rugby and there isn't the same space. His only lineout throw was a shocker too (as were a couple from Harris).
Pat T and TKB were the best ABs on the night. Laumape was good too apart from a terrible pass.
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Anyway my 2c before I read the thread.
What sort of kuck off time is 5mins before the hour? When I saw beIN's coverage was from 3.55 I set my alarm accordingly and turned on at 3.59 and it had been going 5 mins.
Pat T lucky not to be carded gor high shot in first half.
Generally good performance.
Take out the intercept and it's pretty convincing.
And the TMO shenanigans. I don't really like whinging about officiating but that really got my goay. Went one way IMO.
Can't think of anyone really having a bad game. Laumape good cept for the obvious. Liked Pat T. Lima looked good (better than Mo'unga ... but he had the untidy period to play).
More stuff as I think of it
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@akan004 said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
@kiwimurph said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Well Aumua and Moli can certainly scrum based on that last set piece.
And Moli was at loosehead,wasn't he? It would be great if he can play at loosehaed, we are really thin in that position.
Good pickup. Yep he was packing at loosehead. Agreed it is good to see.
He displayed some nice bench impact along with Akira Ioane who had a good showing and I thought Mounga looked sharp too.
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some fella on Stuffs player ratings:
David Havili 7: Not many attacking chances. Some confident high-ball takes, a well-read 22 catch and nice banana clearance, good floating ball for Duffie try. Caught in no-man's land in being unable to stop first French try.
Matt Duffie 6: Palmed off big-time by Camille Chat, in memories of the Nadolo bump-off. Lean frame was hit backwards a few more times with ball in hand, but found a bit more space later, and had a good simple finish for 24th min try.
Jack Goodhue 6: Sole new starting All Black had some good stuff undone by unfortunate 67th min yellow card, when stumbling into an early tackle on Henry Chavancy. Prior to that showed lovely vision and distribution, including nice floating ball for Squire to score. Good defensive reads too.
Ngani Laumape 8: Strong carries as usual - no better than 56th min try where he ran over Vincent Rattezand close to line. Distribution a mix of lovely and awful - such as super quick-hands turning average Sopoaga pass into a Duffie try, then soon after throwing intercept-try pass which was forward anyway. Won a brilliant turnover steal penalty too.
Seta Tamanivalu 7: Used plenty in midfield as a dangerous roamer, always strong. Some good runs down left flank, though couldn't finish great opportunity when mowed down in corner. Sucked in on defence to concede ABs' first try.
Lima Sopoaga 6: Just a distributor, really. One early aimless kick, forward pass scuppered attacking chance on halftime. Solid front-on defence, kicked a lovely conversion from each sideline, subbed after 53min.
Tawera Kerr-Barlow 6: Most likely his last match in ABs jersey before heading to La Rochelle. Decent defensive work, the odd good scamper, awful grubber into French legs, not the crispest night of distribution, with particularly awful pass off attacking scrum on halftime.
Luke Whitelock 7: As renowned, nothing flashy from first-time ABs skipper, always on hand for a strong carry, and solid tackling. Lost ball in tackle close to line but a penalty saved blushes.
Ardie Savea 6: Fine early turnover win which turned momentum and led to opening try, mostly well-contained and couldn't find much space to show the x-factor.
Liam Squire 9: Back from sick bed in an absolute storming way. Best on the paddock, with great roaming runs and support play - rewarded with opening try of the game in left corner - mixed with a tonne of solid hits and abrasiveness round fringes. Taken off in 53rd minute, as surely Scotland test awaits him?
Dominic Bird 6: The big lineout target, though not too much else. Did very well to lock up French maul and win turnover.
Patrick Tuipulotu 8: Spilled opening kickoff, but improved plenty from there. Great early charge, decent link work and runs in middle. Had ball ripped when tryline beckoned, but made amends with 52nd minute score with strong carry.
Jeffrey Toomaga-Allen 6: One penalty for collapsed scrum, but otherwise solid at the set-piece.
Nathan Harris 6: Earned tighthead win on first scrum, but couple of average lineout throws - including one close to French line on halftime which was short of Whitelock and stolen by Sekou Macalou.
Tim Perry 6: Solid scrummaging, but opposite Malik Hamadache charged out of his grasp in open play, and he had a pass intercepted off an unintended lineout win. Subbed in 57th min.
RESERVES:
Asafo Aumua 6: (66th min for Harris) Won crucial turnover in tandem with Hunt with three minutes to play, but bad lineout throw after. Part of huge last scrum which won against feed.
Atu Moli 6: (57th min for Perry) First taste of the All Blacks, and on unfamiliar loosehead side, which ABs are keen on shifting him to. Shunted back in first scrum, but got better, including huge final push.
Ofa Tu'ungafasi 5: (66th min for Toomaga-Allen) Hiding to nothing in getting run around by Macalou leading to late French try. Huge last scrum left him able to smile.
Scott Barrett 6: (66th min for Tuipulotu) Showed keenness and awareness by diving on loose ruck ball a couple of times.
Akira Ioane 8: (53rd min for Squire) First wearing of ABs jersey injected immediate desire within. Took ball immediately on entrance, then went on a brilliant run upfield but just couldn't link up. Some good flying defence too.
Dillon Hunt N/R (70th min for Savea)
Mitch Drummond N/R (70th min for Kerr-Barlow)
Richie Mo'unga 7: (53rd min for Sopoaga) First ABs experience and quickly involved in try with a simple pass for Laumape. Fumbled a low ball but advantage was played anyway, then scrambled well a couple of times, including on rampaging Macalou.
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The good: tuipulotu & Squire in the forwards. TKB and the midfield in the backs.
Time to move on from sopoaga he is not the answer. Subs were pretty decent.
Nice to see France with some decent talent too
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Well that was a weird game to watch. The BeIN commentators kept implying it was a test match until just before half time. Then obviously someone had a word in their ear and they went out of their way to say it was a tour match only.
The commentators kept calling Laumape - Lope. WTF!
The yellow card on Goodhue was idiotic. He fell over. At no point was he trying to wrap his arms around the support player.
Funny also that we always hear that any tackle in the air is a yellow from up that way - except when the French wing who looks like the California dude from Stranger Things 2 does it.
TKB is awesome. At the risk of raising Winger and Canes4Life from their slumber, he's been better than TJP for most of the time they've been competing and he's had better performances in black. He's a loss.
@chimoaus Didn't see anything Cane-like about Whitelock. He just plays a decent solid game that reflects where he stands in the AB rankings. He'll be happy to have more than one AB match under his belt and can be proud of being a captain of the ABs.
A decent win for the dirtrackers.
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@nepia said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
TKB is awesome. At the risk of raising Winger and Canes4Life from their slumber, he's been better than TJP for most of the time they've been competing and he's had better performances in black. He's a loss.
absolutely this.
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@mariner4life said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
@nepia said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
TKB is awesome. At the risk of raising Winger and Canes4Life from their slumber, he's been better than TJP for most of the time they've been competing and he's had better performances in black. He's a loss.
absolutely this.
I was thinking more about this after the game. Out of the 3 AB halfbacks TJP is the most athletically gifted but he is also the halfback who has the greatest difference in his performance between the "good" and the "bad". In black, it has been more of the latter. I don't think Smith is at any risk of losing his starting spot but TJP's impact as a closer has been inconsistent.
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Haha.Trial by the big screen and the involvement of the crowd. Should have just given the crowd the opportunity to put their thumbs up or down to make the decisions like in the gladiator days.
No one played poorly, they all played a pretty good game against a determined and physical opposition with a big home advantage. Surprised how well Bird went in the tight, he seems to have improved a lot. -
Unnecessary squeaky bum stuff at the end there. Should have closed the game out after the Laumape (wtf was the com calling him btw) try.
Otherwise for a group of young guns I thought this was a pretty good performance. Thought they might be in trouble with the parochial home crowd and since it seemed everyone was treating this almost as a test. But they showed composure and did the job.
One thing that was utter shit was the kicking game. Some of the kicks intended for Duffie were appalling.
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@nepia said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
@chimoaus Didn't see anything Cane-like about Whitelock. He just plays a decent solid game that reflects where he stands in the AB rankings. He'll be happy to have more than one AB match under his belt and can be proud of being a captain of the ABs.
Perhaps more Rueben Thorne than Sam Cane (and I mean that as a compliment)
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@taniwharugby said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
some fella on Stuffs player ratings:
Jack Goodhue 6: Sole new starting All Black had some good stuff undone by unfortunate 67th min yellow card, when stumbling into an early tackle on Henry Chavancy. Prior to that showed lovely vision and distribution, including nice floating ball for Squire to score. Good defensive reads too.
Looked forward to me, but not out of the ordinary for tries I see getting awarded all the time nowadays. But anyway...
Liam Squire 9: Back from sick bed in an absolute storming way. Best on the paddock, with great roaming runs and support play - rewarded with opening try of the game in left corner - mixed with a tonne of solid hits and abrasiveness round fringes. Taken off in 53rd minute, as surely Scotland test awaits him?
Is it just me or does Squire look smaller without his mullet?
