Bledisloe 3
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@westcoastie perhaps. You weren't missing the leadership in Dunedin - I think we just had a few percentage points up front without BBBR there, and with Dempsey instead of Hanigan at 6 our furry was better.
Foley has had a weird season for kicking. Some nights he could barely miss. Others he can't hit.
My theory is this: take the first 2 opportunities for 3 points, as long as they're within his range. If he can't get them, change to Beale or Hodge. Let Foley think about playing 10 for a bit, come back to him after the break.
I would love to see Pommy fans quietly shit themselves and Hodge slams one over from 55 out.
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@westcoastie said in BLEDISLOE 3:
@nta what was the half-time possession count?
Felt like the AB's had 25% possession second halfSource: ESPN
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@stargazer feels about right I spose... is it odd that I wonder that when you add some of those starts together theres a missing 1 or 2% here or there.
Like overall territory 52 & 46 = 98%, was the other 2% of the game played in the changing rooms? or a remote atoll somewhere?
56 + 43 = 99% possession? Did the Ball Boy get 1%Theres going to be a minor-party asking for representation soon chuckle chuckle
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@westcoastie The numbers not always adding up is, I think, due to rounding.
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@booboo Is the difference in on-field leadership between Richie McCaw & Kieran Read starting to come through?
Too often, we just do dumb-shit lately.
Does Kieran just not have the Mana Richie had? hard to imagine TJP or SBW making dumb kicks if Richie was boss.
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@stargazer said in BLEDISLOE 3:
Just reminding everyone. We didn't have Moody, Franks, Retallick, BB, Dagg and BFA (and Jordie). Looking at 2019, things aren't that bad if these players are available, and they keep on developing the newbies (and bringing in more & better players) to iron out the weaknesses.
But but but ......we would have smoked them if Akira iaoane was playing apparently (despite the fact that he's a lazy piece of shit that hasn't earned his place)
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At the risk of sounding all English media ... finally, all the off the ball shit the AB's do costs us.
Barnes awarded two penalties against us at crucial times, both when we were in a middle of a good run, and both of needless, pointless off the ball rubbish. We take a lot of criticism from a lot of corners about the cleanest of non tacklers, past the ruck etc, and some of it is duly deserved. And today, these actions went along way to the Wallabies winning the match.
Momentum was everything this match - we had it in the first 30 mins, then the Aussies had it the next 30. Then twice when we had it again, we were penalised for needless, stupid, pointless with no upside, off the ball crap.
I hope this is a learning experience, and turning point.
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@sammyc said in BLEDISLOE 3:
@stargazer said in BLEDISLOE 3:
Just reminding everyone. We didn't have Moody, Franks, Retallick, BB, Dagg and BFA (and Jordie). Looking at 2019, things aren't that bad if these players are available, and they keep on developing the newbies (and bringing in more & better players) to iron out the weaknesses.
But but but ......we would have smoked them if Akira iaoane was playing apparently (despite the fact that he's a lazy piece of shit that hasn't earned his place)
Haha lazy piece of shit. Tell us what you really think.
What did Squire do to earn his place out of interest? Or Fifita?
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@booboo said in BLEDISLOE 3:
What fucks me off about this was the fucking MORONIC fucking mistakes we made.
Time after fucking time after FUCKING time.
Especially when we got on attack.
Dumb
Dumb
Dumb
Had the winning of that amd blew it.
Fuck
Didn't realise Wales were playing today
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@majorrage said in BLEDISLOE 3:
At the risk of sounding all English media ... finally, all the off the ball shit the AB's do costs us.
Barnes awarded two penalties against us at crucial times, both when we were in a middle of a good run, and both of needless, pointless off the ball rubbish. We take a lot of criticism from a lot of corners about the cleanest of non tacklers, past the ruck etc, and some of it is duly deserved. And today, these actions went along way to the Wallabies winning the match.
Momentum was everything this match - we had it in the first 30 mins, then the Aussies had it the next 30. Then twice when we had it again, we were penalised for needless, stupid, pointless with no upside, off the ball crap.
I hope this is a learning experience, and turning point.
Post of the Day 👏
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@westcoastie said in BLEDISLOE 3:
@booboo Is the difference in on-field leadership between Richie McCaw & Kieran Read starting to come through?
Too often, we just do dumb-shit lately.
Does Kieran just not have the Mana Richie had? hard to imagine TJP or SBW making dumb kicks if Richie was boss.
Wonder if a few egos are a bit out of check...I think you’re overstating it. Plenty of dumb play under Richie’s reign. Remember all the pointless grubber kicks by MacAllister and Weepu....
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@act-crusader True.
But at least Luke went out of the team post 2007, and Piri sorted his shit by the 2011 RWC so alls forgiven there..
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@majorrage said in BLEDISLOE 3:
At the risk of sounding all English media ... finally, all the off the ball shit the AB's do costs us.
I'm glad you said it.
One of the issues with the interpretation of Law in Rugby is the winners-are-grinners syndrome. Get away with something for long enough, you see it as a right of sorts.
When a ref finally pings you for it, suddenly THEY are at fault.
Of course, the opposition has to be close enough for it to matter, which is a rare thing for the ABs of late.
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@nta indeed ... look, it's part of the game and we aren't alone in doing it, but I do think it's crept more and more into being a decent sized part of our game.
Barnes wasn't wrong to penalise us today, but on many other days, nothing would have been blown.
As I said, I hope we learn from this.
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There were always going to be scratchy performances this year with the personnel changes and young players coming in.
But we have been here before. In 2012 after that Brisbane draw there were some signs that things weren’t right. We then went on to lose to England in a very convincing win to the Poms.
2010 Bledisloe series seems eerily similar to this year. First Bledisloe we won convincingly and then the next three were very scratchy performances.
