Vegas Shooting
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@antipodean said in Vegas Shooting:
That's clearly automatic small arms fire ~35 secs in.
Or he's the best double-handed riflemaster in the known universe.
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List of countries by firearm-related death rate
This is a historical list of countries by firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population in one year.
The following list includes suicides, accidental fatalities, and justifiable homicides.
Not included are suicides by other means, homicides by other means, accidental deaths by other means, and/or justifiable deaths by other means.
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Guns & Guitars.... says it all really
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@donsteppa yeah not many on the places you'd want to live list...although if you are single Venezuela and Columbia do have some hotties, but not sure that off-sets the risk to ones life....
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@taniwharugby said in Vegas Shooting:
@donsteppa yeah not many on the places you'd want to live list...although if you are single Venezuela and Columbia do have some hotties, but not sure that off-sets the risk to ones life....
Don't forget lucrative careers in the drug trade. I've watched a few episodes of Narcos. Escobar is making a killing, cant see anything going wrong for him.
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@taniwharugby said in Vegas Shooting:
@donsteppa yeah not many on the places you'd want to live list...although if you are single Venezuela and Columbia do have some hotties, but not sure that off-sets the risk to ones life....
I went to Colombia in 1994 for an international meeting in Cartagena - about six months after Escobar was killed. We had a field trip escorted by the heavily armed Colombian army.
Cartagena was fine, but everyone told me that you'd never want to go near Medellin - the "most dangerous city in the world". They reckoned taxis wouldn't pick up white people because the only white people who would be stupid enough to visit were DEA agents and the taxis pretty much knew they'd be machine gunned with a white passenger.
So time to leave came and I caught my flight to Bogota (the capital) to get out. Got three-quarters of the way there and the captain announced that Bogota airport was closed due to fog and we would be diverting....to Medellin! I scanned the aisles and for whatever reason, it seemed none of my meeting compadres were on the plane with me.
Anyway, wet ending to the story - but, I had a fucking nervous 90 minutes in Medellin airport before Bogota re-opened and we were flown onwards.
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@salacious-crumb said in Vegas Shooting:
The FBI has spent the better part of the past year throwing all their resources investigating Putin stole the election and Drumpf colluded with the evil Rooskies -- just be patient, throw some more money and special prosecutors in our direction and we'll find the smoking gun any month now...
...Yet they took all of an hour to declare this psycho Vegas sniper had zero connection to any terrorist organization.
Who, me, skeptical...?
Well, as a rule the terrorist organisations like to advertise their involvement in such cases..
Wh, me, realistic?
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Have been too busy to post until now but wanted to add a few thoughts:
First off, the terrorism discussion. I know there are plenty of people convinced that they have not yet labelled this as an act of terrorism because the perpetrator is white (because skin colour means absolutely fucking everything to these people). This is obviously complete nonsense, the only reason they haven't labelled it yet is because the motives are not immediately obvious. Definitions are important, before mouthing off about terrorism the least people could do is google the fucking definition. It's easy to label the Islamist's as terrorists because they scream their motives at the top of their lungs while committing the act.
Also, any and all comparisons between this and Islamic terrorism are completely meaningless and irrelevant. None of the comments about the need to tighten immigration and clamp down on Mosque's preaching Wahhabi Islam are suddenly made irrelevant because a non-Muslim committed a mass murder. These are two distinct issues, with different solutions - comparisons like "more people killed by white people than Muslims!!" are unhelpful and mind-numbingly stupid.
Next, gun control. As a couple of people have already pointed out, the issues in the States are less about gun control and more about culture. There is an estimated 1.2 million guns in circulation in NZ, though police admit they have lost control of the actual figures, and the weapons used to carry out for example the Port Arthur massacre are not that hard to get hold of. So it's not like NZ has no guns, in fact we have a pretty high rate of gun ownership given our population, but we don't have anywhere near the gun-related homicides of other countries like the States.
In saying that, I'm all for tightening up the laws for gun ownership where possible. It's unlikely to stop someone like this who is already so far outside the law, but it may help reduce shootings where people get the 'red mist' and have a gun on hand, or when kids get hold of their parents weapons. There's an argument to be made there for sure, but at the end of the day if someone has the intent to kill as many innocent people as possible they're going to find a way. 86 people died in Nice thanks to a nutter using a truck as his weapon. So treating "gun laws" as a silver bullet to this problem is way over simplifying it.
At this stage we have to wait for more information to come out of the Police investigation, though I doubt we'll get answers quickly as they'll want to be as thorough as possible. It's really difficult for people to get their head around what would motivate an attack like this, so naturally people want answers and will start speculating immediately.
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@no-quarter The voice of reason. Are you sue you're in the right place?
Good post mate.
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@chris-b said in Vegas Shooting:
@taniwharugby said in Vegas Shooting:
@donsteppa yeah not many on the places you'd want to live list...although if you are single Venezuela and Columbia do have some hotties, but not sure that off-sets the risk to ones life....
I went to Colombia in 1994 for an international meeting in Cartagena - about six months after Escobar was killed. We had a field trip escorted by the heavily armed Colombian army.
Cartagena was fine, but everyone told me that you'd never want to go near Medellin - the "most dangerous city in the world". They reckoned taxis wouldn't pick up white people because the only white people who would be stupid enough to visit were DEA agents and the taxis pretty much knew they'd be machine gunned with a white passenger.
So time to leave came and I caught my flight to Bogota (the capital) to get out. Got three-quarters of the way there and the captain announced that Bogota airport was closed due to fog and we would be diverting....to Medellin! I scanned the aisles and for whatever reason, it seemed none of my meeting compadres were on the plane with me.
Anyway, wet ending to the story - but, I had a fucking nervous 90 minutes in Medellin airport before Bogota re-opened and we were flown onwards.
I spent a few days in Medellin 10 years back - all of Colombia was much safer by then (unless you really went out of your way, avoiding military roadblocks/etc, to go to super dodgy areas - where FARC was active), but people in Medellin still looked nervous as hell whenever you heard a motorbike going past. Apparently motorbike drivebys were all the rage back in the day.
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@catogrande said in Vegas Shooting:
@no-quarter The voice of reason. Are you sue you're in the right place?
Good post mate.
Don't go anywhere near twitter right now mate! You will lose all hope in humanity...
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More American civilians have died by gunfire in the past decade than all Americans killed in combat in World War II (long read, older article)
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@stockcar86 There are so many depressing stats within that article.
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An older article which looks at how the NRA hijacked the second amendment https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/so-you-think-you-know-the-second-amendment/amp