All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3
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@Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@hydro11 I think I rate the individual Lions players higher than most relative to the individual All Blacks players. I still think we are overall the best team though
This! The Lions are a team of test-hardened individuals who know all the tricks. ABs are a team in better sync.Which is why I'm really disappointed but not alarmed by this result.
Gatland had 40 of the best British and Irish professionals at his disposal, recognised a simple gameplan largely based on defence would be needed, and then they practiced it in every single game and every single training session on tour. For those reasons I don't buy this "rag-tag thrown together at the last minute" bullshit.
If Woodentop and his cohorts want to claim some sort of halo effect that will flow like a Mystique-destroying salve over all the brave heroes of the North, then let them lull themselves into that warm sense of security.
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Have to get this rant off my back!
The Lions from the top ๏ผGatland๏ผto the players on the field had too much to say and influence about the reffing of the game. Murray/ Sexton/Farrell - just shut the fuck up and when the ref tells you to get back, have some fucken respect and do it. From my perspective, it looks like soccer antics are creeping into the game and the refs let them do it! It was unfair advantage.
I know the ABs are guilty as well with TJ needing a backhander from Reid.
By the way, who let a British or Irish person run the replays at the game? If it was a kiwi, they need a smack! Kaino spends 10 mins in the bin cos of that person. Too bloody fair! ABs won't get fair treatment away from home!Other observations:
Gats has an annoying personality. I think he suits the more dramatic northern game better.
The Welsh Lions center is an unsung hero. He is seriously good both on attack and defense.
Lions forwads ignoring the gap in the lineout in the last two tests with impunity was weird. I thought there had to be a gap. -
@Tim said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@hydro11 I don't know how I would've combatted the rush defence - my fulltime job isn't coaching the All Blacks. I probably wouldn't have used the inside channel scheme in every game, and wouldn't have kicked so much ball away in the second half. More offloading runs from forwards (see Luatua vs the Lions) would've been nice.
The lack of impact from the bench was very noticeable in this series. S Barrett and A Savea simply aren't big or physical enough to have much impact against a large, quality pack like the Lions. Romano and Luatua would've been better options, with the (excellent) Cane playing 80 mins.
But then again, as Hansen put it, "it's just a game."
NQ is right. We created more than enough chances to win the game handsomely. We just failed to execute the last pass too many times. Keep calm and carry on!!
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Nowe that I'm sober, Poite should be held to account for this.
Accidental offside is still offside
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@canefan an accidental forearm to the head is still accidental, except last week
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@canefan an accidental forearm to the head is still accidental, except last week
don't get me started about JK's YC. Read should have argued the Sean O'Brien defence. No closed fist, no marks on Jerome's arm.....
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I'm with @Tim on Hansen getting stale. Too many stupid media games last week, then suddenly 'ah, it's just a game this week' (taking a pay cut accordingly then I assume), some odd selections, and a team that regressed on their basic skills during the series.
Agree with the comments on never wanting Gatland to coach the AB's, but it better not be Ian Fucking Foster either...
When I saw Fekitoa on, I thought uh-oh here goes Hansens "1-2 punch" in midfield - last roll of the dice. Telegraphed or what. I think Hansen must shoulder some responsibility for selection and lack of a constructive plan B and C when A was plainly not working.. Yes he has got stale. I also think it highlights how badly our once powerful next door neighbours (SA and Aus) have fallen away, and it seems like rugby's power base may just have shifted ever so slightly in favour of the North.
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@Crash said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I'm with @Tim on Hansen getting stale. Too many stupid media games last week, then suddenly 'ah, it's just a game this week' (taking a pay cut accordingly then I assume), some odd selections, and a team that regressed on their basic skills during the series.
Agree with the comments on never wanting Gatland to coach the AB's, but it better not be Ian Fucking Foster either...
When I saw Fekitoa on, I thought uh-oh here goes Hansens "1-2 punch" in midfield - last roll of the dice. Telegraphed or what. I think Hansen must shoulder some responsibility for selection and lack of a constructive plan B and C when A was plainly not working.. Yes he has got stale. I also think it highlights how badly our once powerful next door neighbours (SA and Aus) have fallen away, and it seems like rugby's power base may just have shifted ever so slightly in favour of the North.
So do you want to install the Lions as favourites to win the RWC 2019 right now?
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@Crash said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@canefan That's just silly. But at least this gives us a good reality check two years out.
Just answering you in kind mate
I do agree it is a good shot in the arm, we will need it if we have any chance to go for the threepeat -
@Crash Yeah, I still think England are stronger than the Lions. Ireland are bloody good and Wales have the talent to compete against the best as well. At the present time, it's fair to say that the power base has shifted slightly to the North.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Nowe that I'm sober, Poite should be held to account for this.
I missed the exchange live. Thanks for posting.
That's atrocious officiating.
"We all agree? Cool ... nah fuck it I'm inventing something else ..."
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
the fact that the NH teams always talk about the 'aura' and 'mystique' just means there is one, in thier minds anyway.
The aura and mystique had it's genesis in a 70% record.
We've been going at 90%.
How come we've list aura?
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The look on Reads face is 'you are farking kidding right'
Warburton is like 'holy shit, another rule we didnt know about before we got here, but this is a good one'
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@canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Nowe that I'm sober, Poite should be held to account for this.
Accidental offside is still offside
No it's not. Accidental offside is a scrum. Occurs when a ball is propelled into an offside player who doesn't play at it.
Owens moved his arm to catch it. Reflex action but he played at it. If he just let it hit him without moving to catch it it is accidental offside.
Marshall, surprisingly, was wrong in commentary.
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