Hillsborough
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About time
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Be prepared. Watch for the political cockroaches come out to lay blame for this.
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Listening to the Daniel Morgan Murder podcast. From the same era, but London based. Major part of that is the links between the corrupt cops and the murdoch press. In that case using crime writer from News of the World to spread misinformation.
Can easily imagine similar colluding in this case using The Sun.
I wonder how much the merseyside boycott has cost News Ltd over the years?
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@Rapido said in Hillsborough:
Listening to the Daniel Morgan Murder podcast. From the same era, but London based. Major part of that is the links between the corrupt cops and the murdoch press. In that case using crime writer from News of the World to spread misinformation.
Can easily imagine similar colluding in this case using The Sun.
I wonder how much the merseyside boycott has cost News Ltd over the years?
Can you post a link to the podcast?
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@Catogrande said in Hillsborough:
Be prepared. Watch for the political cockroaches come out to lay blame for this.
And cover their arses.
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@jegga said in Hillsborough:
@Rapido said in Hillsborough:
Listening to the Daniel Morgan Murder podcast. From the same era, but London based. Major part of that is the links between the corrupt cops and the murdoch press. In that case using crime writer from News of the World to spread misinformation.
Can easily imagine similar colluding in this case using The Sun.
I wonder how much the merseyside boycott has cost News Ltd over the years?
Can you post a link to the podcast?
I listen via iTunes.
It's called Untold.But can listen here:
Technically. The podcast is a bit disjointed. Some things they couldn't reveal in series 1.
Some more stuff coming out now in series 2.
There are links to all sorts of shady stuff;
The Stephen Lawrence murder.
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I'm sure the Juventus fans would have a lot to say about all this after Liverpool fans murdered a large number of them in Heysel Stadium. Where are the criminal charges there?
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@Wreck-Diver said in Hillsborough:
I'm sure the Juventus fans would have a lot to say about all this after Liverpool fans murdered a large number of them in Heysel Stadium. Where are the criminal charges there?
There were lots prosecuted in that one including cops, justice was swift in comparison to Hillsborough
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@Wreck-Diver said in Hillsborough:
I'm sure the Juventus fans would have a lot to say about all this after Liverpool fans murdered a large number of them in Heysel Stadium. Where are the criminal charges there?
Not sure if you're taking the piss, but a bunch served time as a result.
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At the risk of going over many of these arguments again, the Taylor report and subsequent reports provide pretty good summaries of the events and where the blame lay (i.e. the Police and their management of the event) and these latest charges are more around the actions of the Police post-incident that have contributed to the suffering of the families.
In terms of blame, Sheffield Wednesday FC (the stadium had major issues and had had capacity reduced due to previous issues that were never properly addressed), the local Police (signed off the event and the capacity in addition to providing crowd management at the event), the Council (signing off the event and capacity) and the FA (ignoring the previous incidents at Hillsborough when arranging the event and not delaying the start of the match) all contributed to running an unsafe event.
The fans actions were largely in response to the situation presented - while I have no doubt there was some bad behaviour (based on attending games in modern UK grounds and seeing footage of historical games) it wasn't found to be a significant proportion of the crowd or beyond a level expected at that time, and if the Police had had an effective crowd management plan in-place, this tragedy could have been avoided.
Stuff
LISTEN — UNTOLD: The Daniel Morgan Murder
Heysel Stadium disaster - Wikipedia
