Call to Arms (and Stomachs)
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[quote]you'll never lose weight if you eat carbs after 4.00 pm[/quote]<br />
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I think that, from personal experience, is a load of shit. I have at least a cup of rice every night with my veg n tuna n stuff. Have lost 13 kilos while doing this in the last year. <br />
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More important (based on nothing I have read, but seems common sense to this battered frontrowers brain), if you input xxxx amount of calories to your body a day, carb, protein or whatever, and expend xxxx+xxxx (more than you input), ergo, you will lose weight. <br />
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I usually eat dinner around 7:30 - 8:00. But that is before 4 in Perth, so maybe there is some truth in this... <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> -
Depends what time of day you're doing everything too Bart. Some people say carbs hang around for use for about 12 hours so if you eat at 7 and exercise at dawn maybe you're able to consume them. I'd never know because the few times I've exercised at dawn I felt too bloody tired to exercise.
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only been doing this early rowing thing for a couple weeks, so won't be that! Who are the 'people' who 'say' all these things we are spouting off though, that is what I want to know!!<br />
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Like in all those gym junkie mags that say, one week, deep squats are bad for you, then a week later, good for you, then bad, then good etc...<br />
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Go as deeps as you bloody want. If it hurts, don't go so deep (this is starting to sound like a 'how to handle John Holmes' instruction manual). If it doesn't do.<br />
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But 'they say' once you go past that 90 degree, you start seperating your knee joint, and the exta amount of benefit you get is not worth the extra amount of gain you get by going that deep. That makes sense to me! personally, love squatting, but can't go past 90 as right knee ends up poked the next day -
[quote]More important (based on nothing I have read, but seems common sense to this battered frontrowers brain), if you input xxxx amount of calories to your body a day, carb, protein or whatever, and expend xxxx+xxxx (more than you input), ergo, you will lose weight.[/quote]<br />
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Spot on mate: the laws of physics are not yet defeated, even by the most hyped of diets. It's like all the bollocks about the 'unhealthiness' of some foods as opposed to others. It's all poured into a vat of sulphuric acid in your stomach, and reduced to the basic constituents: protein, carbs, fats. The only 'unhealthiness' is in getting the relative proportions stupidly out of wack, or in shovelling more energy in than you expend, and becoming a fat bastard. Otherwise, if you want a Big Mac, fire away - it's no worse for you than a fresh, organically raised steak. People get insanely - and irrationally - obsessive about food 'quality'. -
I find myself these days trying to stick to food which are 'low GI', therefore releasing energy more slowly throughout the day and reducing cravings for high energy/sugary foods.<br />
I think with carbs it all comes down to balance. I personally will never cut them out but I would never eat 6 baked potatoes for dinner (remember the food pyramid). <br />
More often these day though I try and cut out those refined carbs which have been mentioned on here and switching to most things which havent been tinkered with by humans. -
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[quote]More often these day though I try and cut out those refined carbs which have been mentioned on here and switching to most things which havent been tinkered with by humans.[/quote]<br />
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Err: so you only eat space dust??<br />
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You know what I mean - stuff which hasn't had machines mess with it (ie. white bread). I've gone wholemeal everything where possible.<br />
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[quote]You know what I mean - stuff which hasn't had machines mess with it (ie. white bread). I've gone wholemeal everything where possible.<br />
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Different concepts: you are confusing 'good for you' with 'modified': wholemeal is better for you because it gives more roughage - but its been 'messed with' just as much as white bread unless you've personally grown the wheat, yeast and additives, and made it yourself. Conversely, a Japanese puffer fish meal would kill you if the chef didn't 'modify' it properly by removing the most toxic bits in his preparation... Every single thing we eat has been affected by human intervention - don't kid yourself otherwise. The issue is avoiding genuine poisons, and maintaining a healthy body. -
Yeah Death but what he means is the bread still has more of its grains i.e. hasn't been pulverised into white bread.<br />
Look at other examples: canned fruit versus fresh fruit - which one is better?<br />
Processed ham versus ham off the bone - not as much difference here admittedly but the stuff of the bone is still better than the pressed gear they sweep up off the floor <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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Thought this might be of interest to thoise of you pathologically inclined to flog yourselves to death.<br />
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Anybody ever do medicine ball training for abs?<br />
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Here's a good one that I do often:<br />
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Sit on your ass on the floor with your legs spread out in front of you for balance. Have somebody throw a medicine ball straight at you. Catch it. Throw it back. Then have them throw it to your left side. Catch it. Throw it back. Then to the right, above your head, side to side again. Build up speed until you can do it with a heavy ball really fast. Your partner should be throwing the ball just outside of your reach, so you have to stretch a bit to catch it.<br />
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This is great training for any kind of contact sport or martial art, as it really hardens up the mid section and gets your obliques and fast twitch fibers really firing. It also builds balance and the ability to take impact and maintain your center of gravity. <br />
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If your midsection feels like somebody beat it with a baseball bat the following day, you know you are doing it right.<br />
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I'd love to join that Paj but by the time I get close to my goal weight I'll be back on the flank <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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Is it too late to jump on the bandwagon?<br />
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Feck it.<br />
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I'm in.<br />
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Current weight - 96kgs. Target - 93kgs.<br />
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Let's go fat boy.........<br />
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Who are you talking to? You'll have to be more specific around here <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> -
and don't post in a Forum calld FatBusters <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />