Highlanders vs. Blues
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Sometimes I wonder if SBW sits down and tries to invent new ways for the haters to hate him more ,
It's almost like he is taking the piss , but he isn't ,
Or is he ?
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@kiwiinmelb said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
Sometimes I wonder if SBW sits down and tries to invent new ways for the haters to hate him more ,
It's almost like he is taking the piss , but he isn't ,
Or is he ?
I mentioned that maybe people go on about him a bit much relative to his actual abilities but he does himself no favours at all truth be told.
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@taniwharugby said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
thing is, if he had that clause, I assume either since he started with NZR back in 2009 (been a MUslim for 9 years apparently) or whenever and when he re-signed again, all good, but why has he chosen now to decide to make use of it?
I'd say hanging out with fucking nutjobs like Mufti Ismail Menk would have something to do with him moving towards more fundamental Islamic beliefs.
BMW drives SBW deal off the road
BMW is “re-looking” at its ambassador deal with Sonny Bill Williams after complaints about the rugby star’s association with Muslim extremists. Williams’ appointment as one of BMW New Zealand’s brand ambassadors was highly publicised in...
"The controversy stems from Williams’ support of Zimbabwe-born Menk who was banned from six UK universities in 2013 for his extreme anti-homosexual views. He described same-sex acts as, “filthy”, “wrong” and “acts of immorality”.
Menk was recorded as saying: “With all due respect to the animals, [homosexuals] are worse than those animals”."
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Has this been covered? AIG, Insurance giant, must make some portion of their money off interest and fees (especially for installments or late payments). TR ?
Hence, is SBW going to blank the AB sponsor off his shirt if and when he runs out for the ABs? (obviously not, so he's being hypocritical-BNZ gets a lot of publicity, anyway)He played for the Crusaders. Did he cross off the name every time he ran out?
As a Highlanders supporter I was impressed by SBW throwing the ball away when the Blues were hot on attack, saving the game. Thanks SBW
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@Stargazer said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
@Kirwan said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
@Crucial said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
A lot of assumptions being made that this is a religious based stand. My first thought was that he has a personal sponsorship clash that hasn't finished yet.
It can't be that, you'd never get a team or competition sponsor if snowflakes could opt out with their own sponsors.
Nothing worse than born again types.
According to the media, SBW has a special clause in his contract with NZR. If that's true, it's not a matter of people randomly opting out.
I don't think just SBW has an objection clause in his contract. Everyone does, it's just that he has apparently used it.
I don't know his reasoning and personally don't hold with any views based on mythical deities but I do support the right for people to follow a faith if they wish.
Wasn't there something years back with Kronfeld or Anton Oliver covering a logo up? Or was that adding a political logo?
How much different is this from say, refusing to tour SA in apartheid days because of personal beliefs?
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@Hooroo said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
I would be skitzing if I was BNZ. (Unless they were told that certain individuals could do that when they signed on)
Haven't seen much reaction (been on holiday) ... but BNZ have had 'uuuge publicity from this.
Good work SB!
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@taniwharugby said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
@Hooroo although ironically, it probably gives them more exposure because he put tape over it
This. As mentioned above.
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@Crucial said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
Wasn't there something years back with Kronfeld or Anton Oliver covering a logo up? Or was that adding a political logo?
Kronfeld painted his headgear with nuclear free symbols before we played the French - back in the late 90's I think.
As we went into professionalism, there were a few people (Jonah partiuclarly I think) who had individual sponsors who were not team sponsors. Meant some players were wearing Nike shoes, while the team was Adidas (or equivalent). That expression of freedom didn't last long
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@booboo said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
@Hooroo said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
I would be skitzing if I was BNZ. (Unless they were told that certain individuals could do that when they signed on)
Haven't seen much reaction (been on holiday) ... but BNZ have had 'uuuge publicity from this.
Good work SB!
I doubt that concerns him. If this is what it is then its not about denying promotion to someone, its about being true to your own beliefs.
The fact that the NZRU have a clause regarding conscientious objection means they allow it and sponsors would also be aware of it. Also means they recognise that commercial agreements should not be forced on others, good on them.
I don't see that it's a big issue. If I worked for a company that got involved with another I didn't agree with morally (eg a tobacco company) I would ask to not be involved and hope that was possible. If not I'd have to decide what took precedence for me, my job or my personal integrity. He's very lucky he works for an enlightened company. -
Edit - @Crucial I'm not fussed about the contract side of things, but I do think he's a massive tool. Given the blatant hypocrisy it's obvious the tape was just a "look at me and my morally superior religious beliefs! I won't support a big evil bank!". Lame, and I would not be bothered if he doesn't wear black again given the "no dickheads" policy.
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@No-Quarter said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
Edit - @Crucial I'm not fussed about the contract side of things, but I do think he's a massive tool. Given the blatant hypocrisy it's obvious the tape was just a "look at me and my morally superior religious beliefs! I won't support a big evil bank!". Lame, and I would not be bothered if he doesn't wear black again given the "no dickheads" policy.
That's the thing. Apparently his moral conscience had no problem with the logo for his profile pic or at training or when talking to the media. No, it just magically asserted itself in his first game back. What an incredible coincidence.
I say dump this prick. The ABs don't need him and neither does NZ rugby.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
@No-Quarter said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
Edit - @Crucial I'm not fussed about the contract side of things, but I do think he's a massive tool. Given the blatant hypocrisy it's obvious the tape was just a "look at me and my morally superior religious beliefs! I won't support a big evil bank!". Lame, and I would not be bothered if he doesn't wear black again given the "no dickheads" policy.
That's the thing. Apparently his moral conscience had no problem with the logo for his profile pic or at training or when talking to the media. No, it just magically asserted itself in his first game back. What an incredible coincidence.
I say dump this prick. The ABs don't need him and neither does NZ rugby.
He's not McCaw or Carter or even Nonu and Smith. My point exactly.
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SBW really puts sand in your vaginas doesn't he?
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@mariner4life said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
SBW really puts sand in your vaginas doesn't he?
If you wander over to various Off-Topic threads you'll notice that religion, and in particular Islam puts large quantities of sand in my vagina on a daily basis. SBW's tape triggered me.
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