NZ v SA Test Series
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So who's been the best #3 in test cricket over the last couple years or so? (Start of Jan 2014)
You can also see the impact in that time Steve Smith has made as well, just in half the number of tests of Kane.
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Thats some pretty surprising reading honestly - I thought Smith would have dominated them. Also amazing that an NZ player has played more tests than many of his counterparts.
EDIT ... so if you had to choose between one of either Smith or Williamson in your team right now - which would you go for? It's hard for me to choose Kane, he's been utterly superb, but Smith has just done so well against all top opposition - I am just hypothesising here, but I assume Kane as faced Bangles, Zim where as SS hasn't. I also wonder what the results would be by country.
I think most NZ pick Kane, all oz (bar nobody) pick Smith, Poms pick Smith, Safa's maybe a mix after this tour, and all Indians to pick Virat Kohli.
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Smith played a lot at 4
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Just to show how tough batting at 3 is over a test career.
how Kane stacks up against the best of all time.. -
@Virgil said in NZ v SA Test Series:
Just to show how tough batting at 3 is over a test career.
how Kane stacks up against the best of all time..Statistically the best no. 3 of all time is Dizzy Gillespie. One innings at #3, 201 not out.
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@MajorRage said in NZ v SA Test Series:
Thats some pretty surprising reading honestly - I thought Smith would have dominated them. Also amazing that an NZ player has played more tests than many of his counterparts.
EDIT ... so if you had to choose between one of either Smith or Williamson in your team right now - which would you go for? It's hard for me to choose Kane, he's been utterly superb, but Smith has just done so well against all top opposition - I am just hypothesising here, but I assume Kane as faced Bangles, Zim where as SS hasn't. I also wonder what the results would be by country.
I think most NZ pick Kane, all oz (bar nobody) pick Smith, Poms pick Smith, Safa's maybe a mix after this tour, and all Indians to pick Virat Kohli.
I love KW and Smith strikes me as a typical Oz sporting dickhead but ya can't go past a guy with a test average of 60
Poms would be rooting all the way though wouldn't they?
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I'm never a huge fan of looking at lifetime given guys like Boon & Chappell faced the Windies etc, without limits on bouncers, often (certainly Chappell) without helmets. And with normal sized bats so an edge was caught in the slips not in the stands.
If you did the same list for quicks they would all be in the 70's & 80's bar Steyn. Its like an inverse, Marshall, Holding, Hadlee, Willis, Khan, Akram, Waqar, Garner, Bishop etc
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@gollum said in NZ v SA Test Series:
I'm never a huge fan of looking at lifetime given guys like Boon & Chappell faced the Windies etc, without limits on bouncers, often (certainly Chappell) without helmets. And with normal sized bats so an edge was caught in the slips not in the stands.
If you did the same list for quicks they would all be in the 70's & 80's bar Steyn. Its like an inverse, Marshall, Holding, Hadlee, Willis, Khan, Akram, Waqar, Garner, Bishop etc
.....Ambrose, Lillee, Walsh......
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@Virgil said in NZ v SA Test Series:
Just to show how tough batting at 3 is over a test career.
how Kane stacks up against the best of all time..Sanga averaging 60 at 3 is incredible over so many matches. Dead set legend.
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@No-Quarter said in NZ v SA Test Series:
@Virgil said in NZ v SA Test Series:
Just to show how tough batting at 3 is over a test career.
how Kane stacks up against the best of all time..Sanga averaging 60 at 3 is incredible over so many matches. Dead set legend.
Better than Lara and Tendulkar....yawn....yes we know we read your previous post
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@Virgil said in NZ v SA Test Series:
Just to show how tough batting at 3 is over a test career.
how Kane stacks up against the best of all time..I slightly changed the query to sort by avg with a minimum of 50 innings
Player
DG Bradman (AUS)
WR Hammond (ENG)
IVA Richards (WI)
KC Sangakkara (SL)
BC Lara (WI)
RT Ponting (AUS)
KS Williamson (NZ)
HM Amla (SA)
R Dravid (ICC/INDIA) -
Look at that, Sanga ahead of Lara, and no sign of Tendulkar who was hiding away behind Dravid like a pussy.
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@No-Quarter said in NZ v SA Test Series:
Look at that, Sanga ahead of Lara, and no sign of Tendulkar who was hiding away behind Dravid like a pussy.
Lara faced better bowlers. Way better.
Sir IVA Richards batted as low as six late in his career which I always found a bit odd.
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@No-Quarter said in NZ v SA Test Series:
@Virgil said in NZ v SA Test Series:
Just to show how tough batting at 3 is over a test career.
how Kane stacks up against the best of all time..Sanga averaging 60 at 3 is incredible over so many matches. Dead set legend.
A lot of tests against the Bangles. But still an amazing record
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@KiwiPie said in NZ v SA Test Series:
If Kane's stats were to exactly match those of the last 4 years (looking back from today) - in 8 years time he would be 34 and have
137 tests
45 hundreds
61 fifties
12742 runs
57.92 averageChrist on a bike....how amazing is that?
That's an Aussie great record right there....
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So who wants to give a wrap up of our summer of cricket? Do the boys get a pass mark?
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