Call to Arms (and Stomachs)
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ok I will join in;<br />
aim to move down from a comfortable 89Kg to 80, but 85 is probably more realistic :nta -
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I must say though that last nights 1 hr 20 min touch footy game saw me disturbingly lethargic and lacking spark for the first half hour, but as the game wore on, the pace and energy I've been striving to develop gradually returned. Don't know why it took so long, cos I didn't have a big weekend or anything? :nta[/quote]<br />
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Anaerobic versus aerobic. I get a similar thing on the bike as my regular track after a bit of flat work (2km) goes upwards for about the next 3km and I feel like I'm going to die. I'm not sure exactly how it works but in layman's terms you start off using the grunt in your muscles, because its the most efficient way to get short-term use out of them. Then when your body realises you're serious about this and aren't going to stop, it forces you to breathe deeply, which is why you get puffed. Its trying to recover oxygen to get out to the muscles. Then after a lot of huffing you break through the balance of anaerobic versus aerobic and your breathing essentially keeps up with your muscles' demands for oxygen (saturation point). its also called "second wind". -
yep OK Nick, that makes sense to me....well explained. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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So with short bursts of speed when you're already fucked and sucking in the big ones, is that anerobic or aerobic? Is a training regime that develops both, a good thing? :nta -
Anaerobic is generally your muscles doing stuff on limited oxygen, using the power they "carry around" with them I guess you could say. Aerobic is your body moving on full oxygen flow which is why you have that peak time puffing your cheeks out but then settle back into a regular breathing rhythm. If you do muscle workout, you will be developing more anaerobically because you're using strength rather than endurance. But you're still using oxygen of course. I guess that's the simplest equation for it:<br />
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Aerobic = endurance<br />
Anaerobic = strength<br />
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But there's a bit of overlap e.g. you'll hit your aerobic balance point into the middle of the game but then have to pack a scrum and while you're using a lot of the strength in your legs and torso you're still breathing deep regularly. That's why exercise programs that use both weights work and fitness work prove more effective for aerobic endurance than a program that uses purely fitness work. Someone posted the results of a study up here about it where the people doing e.g. treadmill and circuit weights increased their fitness much more than those doing treadmill and bike. -
Any Kiwi posters watching that Human Potential or whatever its called on Monday nights. Caught it last night - lot of stuff on this sort of thing. Quite interesting. Showed what happens when you free dive or the relative drag between a wolloen swimming costume and the latest shark suits. Threw a guy in 10o water a showed the body's reaction.<br />
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All I know about anaerobic and aerobic is that if you do endurance and are lean you burn muscle and your sweat smells like cats pee. -
Bart, I believe that clear piss means your body is close to full hydration, and when it's very yellow, your body is dehydrated. <br />
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Obviously this is not the case when you've been on the booze and you're pissing clear, because alcohol actually is a diuretic. -
and BMR looking to go from super super flywieght to super flyweight <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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Bart, I believe that clear piss means your body is close to full hydration, and when it's very yellow, your body is dehydrated. <br />
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Obviously this is not the case when you've been on the booze and you're pissing clear, because alcohol actually is a diuretic.<br />
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Or have had a berroca or eated asparagas -
Jumping on the fatty bandwagon:<br />
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Current weight: 86 kg<br />
Ideal weight: 78-80 kg <br />
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Got the CSIRO diet book and starting tonight. Will give up smoking after the carton of duty free fags run out (1 week approx) -
Welcome aboard CC and latest sign-ups.<br />
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Five days and counting left in the first week, after which we can review progress as a team and I'll give the lycra a quick rinse. It will have earned it! -
[quote]When you piss yellow is bad, clear is good?[/quote]<br />
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Bart, British Army's advice, aimed at simple souls like Infantrymen, is 'Pee white once a day'... Theory is, that means you're properly hydrating yourself. Crude measure, but effective - important when exercising.<br />
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If most of you are starting from (ahem) a 'relatively flabby midriff zone', 'core stability' is an area to start gently on - that's gut and lower back exercises to you and me.. Important, as it is believed to provide the base from which all body muscular action is powered, and it will protect against back injuries. One of the most effective is 'cycling', 'cos it exercises frontal and oblique abdominals (proven in a US study to be better than any other gut exercise): lie on your back, put hands clasped behind your head, and alternately raise left/right knee, in a cycling motion. As the knee comes up, swing the alternate elbow (eg left elbow to right knee) down toward it. Start with (say) 20 reps a side, and build to 200. I do it first thing in the morning, before showering.<br />
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The other point: the exercise leads to weight loss, but it's the time when you aren't exercising that lets the muscles get stronger, as they recover and react to new stress. I reckon that, for anyone over about 35, this means that you should exercise no more than every other day for at least the first month: it'll keep injuries down, and stop you losing heart. Build up by all means, but take it slowly at first: injuries are a bummer. -
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[quote]When you piss yellow is bad, clear is good?[/quote]<br />
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'core stability' is an area to start gently on - that's gut and lower back exercises to you and me.. Important, as it is believed to provide the base from which all body muscular action is powered, and it will protect against back injuries. [/quote]<br />
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Wholeheartedly agree with this - for those just starting on low to moderate exericise one of the ways to strengthen this is when walking to suck in both the gut and pull the butt muscles up while walking. This forces you to walk using the lower part of your body or "core" instead of just flopping your legs in front of you. Sounds easier to do that it is (the sucking part not the walking...) . But you will notice a difference after a week or two. Walking is one of the best exercises you can get if you are just starting out - walk slowing to one lampost and then walk so fast you can't talk to the next, then slow, then fast... before long you can walk fast for two lamposts and then slow for one... Best followed by those very unfit and slightly older ferners who while full of anticipation and excitement want to remain breathing until at least the S14 is over. :happy: -
I've lent them to Phooey.