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    hydro11
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    ODI cricket is sort of always built for the World Cup - your world ranking is a bit irrelevant compared to your test ranking. Teams do need to think long term but some of Australia's selections have been quite bizarre.

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    @No-Quarter said in Aussie Cricket:

    White being overlooked for this tour is madness. He's right, they are treating the national side as a development team.

    Thing with cricket is a lot of players mature a bit later on in their careers and hit their peak between 26 - 35. Throwing a 22 year old in and then casting him aside when he invariably fails doesn't tell you much. The "next great player" will be easy to spot at the lower levels, there's no need to try and blood them in the international arena before they are ready.

    I can remember fairly recent criticism of Aus picking old players and not giving the youngsters a go. I guess you need to find a balance.

    Also, England have had their collective asses handed to them in India. Puts our results into perspective a bit.

    I was shocked that people were shocked we did poorly in India.

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    No Quarter
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    @hydro11 said in Aussie Cricket:

    @No-Quarter said in Aussie Cricket:

    White being overlooked for this tour is madness. He's right, they are treating the national side as a development team.

    Thing with cricket is a lot of players mature a bit later on in their careers and hit their peak between 26 - 35. Throwing a 22 year old in and then casting him aside when he invariably fails doesn't tell you much. The "next great player" will be easy to spot at the lower levels, there's no need to try and blood them in the international arena before they are ready.

    I can remember fairly recent criticism of Aus picking old players and not giving the youngsters a go. I guess you need to find a balance.

    Also, England have had their collective asses handed to them in India. Puts our results into perspective a bit.

    I was shocked that people were shocked we did poorly in India.

    Yeah, I wasn't shocked but I had some optimism that if things went our way then we might sneak a win. Losing every bloody toss put paid to that though.

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    Hooroo
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    This is so meaningless in terms of Warner.

    It's most likely that Warner is getting his Century in the 20-30 over mark when everything slows as he gets to the 90 mark so quickly.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/89476717/selfish-david-warner-slows-in-the-nervous-nineties-while-other-world-class-batsmen-shine

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    No Quarter
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    Bang on @Hooroo Warner is the only opener in that lot. If he holes out in the 90s between the 20 - 30 over mark everybody would be saying he needed to consolidate at that stage of the game.

    If you ignore the opinion piece, they are interesting stats. Smith and ABDV miles ahead of everyone else when it comes to accelerating their innings at the end.

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    mariner4life
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    holy shit! I'm all for anything having a go at the illiterate, beligerent dwarf, but that is some of the biggest bullshit i have ever read. Fuck me.

    David Warner only scores at a run a ball in the 90s. What a fluffybunny. And this one time, he took more than that. Hanging's too good for 'im!

    Fact of the matter is he has 13 hundreds in 91 innings. He averages 45. His average strike rate is 97. I think he's doing okay (and I'm pretty sure Ross Taylor would kill of his record)

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    I am now dumber for having read that article.

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    Holy shit Aus cricket has a hard on for the Marsh brothers. Khawaja appears to be dropped for the first test in favour of Shaun Marsh

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    So Aust already has their scapegoat when they lose...

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    Rapido
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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:

    Holy shit Aus cricket has a hard on for the Marsh brothers. Khawaja appears to be dropped for the first test in favour of Shaun Marsh

    Doesn't Khawaja buck the cliche of Asians being good players of spin?

    While S Marsh has scored well in Asia.

    Probably some logic.

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    No Quarter
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    Marsh was bamboozled by Santner at Eden Park. I'd say the Indian spinners will be licking their lips.

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    hydro11
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    @Rapido said in Aussie Cricket:

    @mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:

    Holy shit Aus cricket has a hard on for the Marsh brothers. Khawaja appears to be dropped for the first test in favour of Shaun Marsh

    Doesn't Khawaja buck the cliche of Asians being good players of spin?

    While S Marsh has scored well in Asia.

    Probably some logic.

    Khawaja is terrible against spin. It's tough because he is obviously one of Australia's best batsmen. I would back Marsh to score more against him in India though. Most teams don't really do a horses for courses in the batting whereas they do with the bowlers.

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    @Bovidae said in Aussie Cricket:

    So Aust already has their scapegoat when they lose...

    DO WE NEED TWO FUCKING SCAPEGOATS???

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:

    holy shit! I'm all for anything having a go at the illiterate, beligerent dwarf, but that is some of the biggest bullshit i have ever read. Fuck me.

    David Warner only scores at a run a ball in the 90s. What a fluffybunny. And this one time, he took more than that. Hanging's too good for 'im!

    Fact of the matter is he has 13 hundreds in 91 innings. He averages 45. His average strike rate is 97. I think he's doing okay (and I'm pretty sure Ross Taylor would kill of his record)

    Yeah sure he slows down in the 90s.

    But he's probably the fucking quickest to 89.

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
    Yeah sure he slows down in the 90s.

    That has to be a sick hit piece.

    I'm no fan of Davey as a person, but his qualities as a batter cannot be underestimated. He is amazing. Annoying, and amazing.

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    @nzzp said in Aussie Cricket:

    @mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
    Yeah sure he slows down in the 90s.

    That has to be a sick hit piece.

    I'm no fan of Davey as a person, but his qualities as a batter cannot be underestimated. He is amazing. Annoying, and amazing.

    He's the batsman most Kiwis think McCullum was...

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    @gollum said in Aussie Cricket:

    @nzzp said in Aussie Cricket:

    @mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
    Yeah sure he slows down in the 90s.

    That has to be a sick hit piece.

    I'm no fan of Davey as a person, but his qualities as a batter cannot be underestimated. He is amazing. Annoying, and amazing.

    He's the batsman most Kiwis think McCullum was...

    You claim to know what most kiwis think?

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    gollum
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    @Siam said in Aussie Cricket:

    You claim to know what most kiwis think?

    "Where's the nearest KFC?"
    "This year will be the year the BCs really deliver"
    "Ok, I'm just killing time till the start of the rugby championship, I'm not even that into cricket"
    "when is the team announced?"

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    TeWaio
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    @gollum said in Aussie Cricket:

    @nzzp said in Aussie Cricket:

    @mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
    Yeah sure he slows down in the 90s.

    That has to be a sick hit piece.

    I'm no fan of Davey as a person, but his qualities as a batter cannot be underestimated. He is amazing. Annoying, and amazing.

    He's the batsman most Kiwis think McCullum was...

    Nail. Head.

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    barbarian
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    As much as I'd love to froth at the mouth over dropping Khawaja for Marsh, it might make sense.

    If Usman can't play on Indian decks, and everyone knows it, and he's batting like shit at training, why put him out there? Yeah he's great on harder tracks, but cricket in India is a different game.

    Meanwhile Marsh goes out and bags a hundred against India A overnight.

    I'd think this was a bit much if they dropped Khawaja for a match at the SCG, or Headingley or something. But this is India, and I think a totally different approach may well be justified.

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