Biggest Tool in World Sport
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@Donsteppa said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Kyrgios is the one who doesn't like lesser players making comments about him, well then....
Australian Open 2017: Nick Kyrgios booed as John McEnroe says he is a black eye to the sport
Nick Kyrgios was booed off court after a controversial showing that prompted tennis legend John McEnroe to describe the Australian's performance as a black eye to the sport.
He's simply mentally weak. Imbued with all the talent in the world and the fortitude of wet lettuce.
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Off topic, but I think of a wet lettuce as being freshly washed and crisp.
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I like the kid
I never did, but then I started to read some things and quotes from him and tried to look at him differently - tried to question what the overwhelming media and public opinion fit with my thoughts and values.
I admire honesty in people and this fella is honest. He doesn't like his job that much at times, me neither!
he's earnt all he has from being fucken good at a particular job that comes relatively easy for him and he's defo put some effort and time into being a top 20 player in the world. An incredible achievement in anyone's book
I don't subscribe to sportspeople being better or worse than me or anyone just because they're on the tele or earning millions.
I definitely don't subscribe to "if I was him" delusions because that is totally unrealistic, futile and pretty arrogant - you're not, you're at best someone with an opinion about someone you've never met.
I couldn't give a fuck how people live their lives until it directly affects me and my kin.
But Nick, like John Daly get my admiration for being honest, good at something and being brave enough to seemingly understand that you can't please all the people all the time
I got a mate who played Big Bash, Champions League IPL, best mates with Davey Warner, now retired and pretty clearly hates playing the game. Just a job he was good at and the peripheral benefits made it worth playing
No, I'm not trying to be contrary or argumentative, I just see a pro sportsman brave and secure in himself (perhaps naive) enough to speak his mind.
As to why he seems to give up - I couldn't give a fuck how he lives his life - but sure as hell impressed that despite all this and the public hating he still pulls in millions, beats Federer and has a life full of choices, 'cos that's what success in life really is - what choices you have, not whether people you don't know approve
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@Siam said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
No, I'm not trying to be contrary or argumentative, I just see a pro sportsman brave (perhaps naive) enough to speak his mind.
I don't know what brave has to do with it. He plays in a sport that doesn't sanction people for being immature fuckwads and hasn't for more than 40 years.
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@Bones said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
I don't really see what's to admire about a guy making those comments after the match.
Here is what Kyrgios said:
TRANSCRIPT OF NICK KYRGIOS’ POST-MATCH PRESS CONFERENCE:
Q. What’s the emotions like half an hour after that?
NICK KYRGIOS: Yeah, it’s obviously disappointing. But, you know, it was ultimately a pretty fun match. He’s a great guy and he deserved it, so ... I’m not going to beat myself up about it.
Obviously, yeah, I mean, could have gone either way really.
Q. Is it disappointing to be booed by the crowd at the end when you feel like you feel you’re trying your best out there?
NICK KYRGIOS: Yes, obviously it’s not the greatest thing to hear. I didn’t have the best preparation coming into the Australian Open. Pretty banged up, my body. You know, I don’t even know what the score was in the end. Was it ten-8? 10-8 in the fifth, getting booed off, definitely not the best feeling.
Q. John McEnroe has said he didn’t think you were trying at the end. Were you trying?
NICK KYRGIOS: Well, my body was sore. I was hurting. I mean, John McEnroe, was it John McEnroe? Good on him. Great career. Good on him.
Q. What exactly happened when you were up two sets, 3-2, 15-Love, when suddenly Seppi plays a drop shot, you run, you don’t reach the ball, make the mistake, and you start yelling? The umpire decides to give you a warning. Since then the match changed completely. Why were you so furious? You were up so easily.
NICK KYRGIOS: I don’t know, I just lost three sets. That’s what happened. I ended up losing.
Q. You seemed to be talking to your box about your conditioning, that you’ve done too much. What was that about?
NICK KYRGIOS: Poor management, I guess. I think I didn’t have the best preparation. It’s on me. Did a couple things in the off-season that I’m probably not going to do next time. It’s on me, I guess. My body’s not in good enough shape. You live and you learn.
Q. What would you not do again?
NICK KYRGIOS: I don’t know, maybe just not play as much basketball. Actually take my pre-season seriously.
Q. What’s been the immediate reaction from your team after the match?
NICK KYRGIOS: Obviously disappointment. You know, it hurts. It hurts me to see them, they got families, they’re sacrificing their time trying to get me over the line. It’s tough. It’s tough.
Q. What was the impact with playing a lot of basketball on your body?
NICK KYRGIOS: I don’t know. It was fun. I love to play. Hurt my knee.
Q. Is the plan still to play doubles with Dan Evans tomorrow?
NICK KYRGIOS: I’m probably not going to play. My body’s pretty messed up. You know, he won today. Great win. He’s playing great. Probably not the worst thing for him. He’s got a good opportunity to go far. We’re good mates. I’m sure he’ll understand.
Q. Is it the knee?
NICK KYRGIOS: I’m feeling a lot of things. But, yeah, the knee’s probably the main cause of it.
What's the problem with his comments? He gives credit to his opponent, blames himself for his loss and refuses to have a go at McEnroe. I can see why a tennis fan would be disappointed with him but at the end of the day he is at the Aussie Open based on merit and isn't able to progress further.
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@Nepia
Why would he?Would you?
Do half the world's employees quit their job because one or a few aspects disappoint them?
I've never had a job that's 100% fine and great.
Not arguing Neps, just trying to hold him accountable to the same values of myself and the people around me whom I consider genuine.
Once you objectify the actual occupation, he's just a kid in the world (albeit a public one) in my opinion.
And the job opportunities and sponsorship and prize money (wages) just keep rolling in because of his talent, so why wouldn't we keep working till something demonstrably better comes along?
edit: he's not a shitty contractor mate, he's top 20 in a pool of 6 billion!
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@Virgil
Yeah but you and I sound like complete fuckwits to people we don't know and people who know nothing about our lives.We gonna change what we do to satisfy people we don't know?
Not having a go mate, just my way of rationalising that statement
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@MajorRage
Yeah the Wawrinka thing was poor in my (non judgemental opinion
) but he apologised and if I had all my shit comments playing sport publicised I'd come out heaps worse.It ain't black and white but still I think my premise of "who knows and who gives a fuck what people I see on the tele are like"
All those years in Asia and Thailand, Rage, where you start a bagging someone conversation with Asians and get a shrug of the shoulders and a genuine "Up to him" or "not my business" - and they REALLY don't seem to give a fuck as they strive to get through the day happy (especially the dirt poor ones) - a nice lesson I reckon
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@antipodean
Braveness in my opinion because he says things we all know people don't want to hear. Contrast with the hollow forced apologies that we're supposed to swallow (Woods, Nugget every NRL player) for "PR" reasons - that's not brave, that's deceipt -
In summary I can see how people don't like him (I think calling him mentally unfit might be over egging the cake a bit) but I've tried to look at it from other angles and am more comfortable with my opinion - but opinions are like arseholes eh?
I do think that a hotel cleaner performs more of a function for society than a sportsperson or actor and I do think the likes of dysfunctional bankers and politicians are more in the ilk of fuckwits because they can and do real harm to me and my kin.
And I value brutal honesty
Thanks for taking the time to reply to me though
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@Hooroo said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Off topic, but I think of a wet lettuce as being freshly washed and crisp.
Correct, washing a lettuce makes the cells absorb more water via osmosis, making them more turgid / less flaccid.
