Joseph Parker - Young man going places.
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@Billy-Tell said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
Can any aficionados tell me, is WBO more or less prestigious than WBC, IBF etc??
Less I believe.
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@Billy-Tell said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
Can any aficionados tell me, is WBO more or less prestigious than WBC, IBF etc??
Seems to be a major topic in NZ once this fight was announced by sports media who arent that clued up in boxing ,
Probably less so, but not as much in it as people want to talk about , they are all belts ,
Once Boxers get a name for themselves these days , they pretty much fight for as much money as they can , belts almost come along as a bonus ,but its really the money they are chasing, fighters think nothing of vacating a belt if they see a better money deal somewhere else,
its almost become a bit like golf or tennis where they fight for prizemoney and the various tournaments are like the various belts
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@raznomore said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
Don't think Ruiz camp thought much of Parker and his supposed power punching. Thats the logical reason for Ruiz to keep coming foward. Seemed on the money.
Felt like Parker was trying to sell the fight to Joshua, Klitschko, Haye and Wilder. He wasn't interested in the Lennox Lewis school of thought when boxing a smaller opponent. He used the Jab only when he remembered he could.
He's made life hard for himself. Ortiz is licking his chops somewhere. But still fucken proud of Parker regardless.
The thing that has struck me once Parker has stepped up and fought guys with a bit more of a chin like Ruiz and Takam ,
He hasnt looked like knocking them out , his boxing skills arent nothing to write home about , and maybe his power isnt what we thought it was either ?
Parker is a champ now and good on him , but there are a few guys out there you would not want him fighting yet ,
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Without officially scoring it round by round , I thought Ruiz was in front , despite what the colonel was saying , he has always been one eyed to his favourites
Just thought Ruiz took the first 4 rounds ( maybe Im wrong ) but if he did ,
Did Joe do enough in the next 8 to bring the scoring back in his favor, ? you can only think the judges thought he won the majority of those last 8 rounds IF Ruiz won the first 4 , the next 8 were close but they mustve scored them round by round marginally to joe
Wasnt robbery by any means , nothing like that, but Ruiz is entitled to feel unlucky , would not surprise me if there is a rematch on the cards
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@kiwiinmelb said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
Without officially scoring it round by round , I thought Ruiz was in front , despite what the colonel was saying , he has always been one eyed to his favourites
Just thought Ruiz took the first 4 rounds ( maybe Im wrong ) but if he did ,
Did Joe do enough in the next 8 to bring the scoring back in his favor, ? you can only think the judges thought he won the majority of those last 8 rounds IF Ruiz won the first 4 , the next 8 were close but they mustve scored them round by round marginally to joe
Wasnt robbery by any means , nothing like that, but Ruiz is entitled to feel unlucky , would not surprise me if there is a rematch on the cards
Most reports were that Ruiz did win the first four. One judge had JP winning 4 of the next 8 two judges had him winning 5 of the next 8 ( that's if I understand it correctly)
Only a really decisive round gets you more than a one point win for that round, like you've been really beaten up.
Obviously home advantage is a big thing so kudos to Duco for managing to make that happen. They might cop some shit at times but you cannot deny that they have achieved a pretty impressive campaign to achieve a world belt.
Parker will find he has to cop the outsider. Status if he ends up fighting overseas.
Congrats to Joseph are deserved though. Well done that man. A lot of doubters out there looking for excuses to downplay what he has achieved -
Great achievement by Joe. Ruiz was always going to have to do a lot more than Joe to win it down here and almost did enough.
Still not convinced at all on Joes power. Other fighters above him won't be shaking in their boots based on his recent performances
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close fight eh. i had parker winning, but i'm no expert, and not by much. thought he landed a few more scoring punches overall, after losing the first few rounds.
early on he looked hesistant, maybe nervous, and ruiz kept backing him up nicely while parker was hitting nothing but gloves. as ruiz slowed a touch, parker was able to slide out of his way a bit more, and hit him with a few more jabs. didn't throw enough though.
both have pretty quick hands for big boys, but most of the shots landed weren't from really strong positions.
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It doesn't sound like it was a terrible decision to give the fight to Parker. That is the problem with boxing though. People can watch a fight and think either guy won unless it was a one sided fight. You sort of don't want a fight to be close because it brings the judges into it but you also want a good contest. It seems like Parker would need to really step it up if he was fighting someone a lot better.
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@Billy-Tell said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
Can any aficionados tell me, is WBO more or less prestigious than WBC, IBF etc??
They're all on par especially with all the champions in the division now apart from the WBA which would be the worst going around in the division as it is a complete mess.
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@mimic said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
Well done Parker, you've done Samoa proud. Also a big thank you to the NZ government for missing the bus and giving Samoa the chance to be advertised to the world.
Dunno how true that is. Everyone under the sun on social media is proud of 'their boy' Joe doing the business for NZ. Easy to become experts on the sweet science when Lydia Ko and Team NZ are quiet I guess.
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@mimic said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
Well done Parker, you've done Samoa proud. Also a big thank you to the NZ government for missing the bus and giving Samoa the chance to be advertised to the world.
The mystique around his Samoan heritage was completely undone by walking out to Phil Collins.
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@Wurzel said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
@mimic said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
Well done Parker, you've done Samoa proud. Also a big thank you to the NZ government for missing the bus and giving Samoa the chance to be advertised to the world.
The mystique around his Samoan heritage was completely undone by walking out to Phil Collins.
Easy now. King Kapisi and Che Fu can't exactly compare with anything PC has done.
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@MN5 said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
@Wurzel said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
@mimic said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
Well done Parker, you've done Samoa proud. Also a big thank you to the NZ government for missing the bus and giving Samoa the chance to be advertised to the world.
The mystique around his Samoan heritage was completely undone by walking out to Phil Collins.
Easy now. King Kapisi and Che Fu can't exactly compare with anything PC has done.
Che Fu also isn't Samoan.
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be interested to see where they go from here ,
My gut feeling is Duco will be trying to hang onto it as long as possible and doing their best to avoid guys they think Joe may struggle with ,
But the WBO could easily throw a spanner in the works and dish up a mandatory like Haye ,
There is a bit of talk Tyson furys Brother Hughie could be on the cards , which could be a bit of fun in a circus kind of way
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@Nepia said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
@MN5 said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
@Wurzel said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
@mimic said in Joseph Parker - Young man going places.:
Well done Parker, you've done Samoa proud. Also a big thank you to the NZ government for missing the bus and giving Samoa the chance to be advertised to the world.
The mystique around his Samoan heritage was completely undone by walking out to Phil Collins.
Easy now. King Kapisi and Che Fu can't exactly compare with anything PC has done.
Che Fu also isn't Samoan.
This is the fern. Facts should never interfere with perpetuating stereotypes.
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@mimic The only thing is that the ad they replayed over and over hardly advertised Samoa as anything more than a swing bridge and a swimming hole. Malielegaoi spent all that money but I'd be surprised if there is a massive jump in Samoan tourism.
That fat c@nt just wants to play big dog. I noticed he made good on his promise to get the Rock there too.....on the big screen....
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I managed to watch the last 7 rounds at a pub but couldn't hear the commentary from the cheap seats. Rounds 6-12 looked fairly even to me and neither fighter looked that confident at the final bell.
Does anyone know where the judges were from? I know they couldn't be from NZ/Aust or USA/Mexico so I assume Canada, Latin America or from Europe. Ruiz did mention pre-fight that home advantage was worth 2 pts and so it proved with the scorecard of 2 of the judges.
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I think I heard there were two thais but I mightve heard wrong,
Was a difficult one to score , I had Ruiz up due to his early rounds , but he did fade with the amount of pressure he applied through the middle stages which allowed Joe to score off his jab, so its possible some would see him pinching more rounds than others
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Ruiz looks more beat up than Parker, if that is any indicator
