North vs. South
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@mariner4life I've even re-poached Sam Whitelock....
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@ACT-Crusader pooooaaaach!
"are you England? Are you England? Are you England in disguise?"
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@mimic said in North vs. South:
@Bones said in North vs. South:
@Bovidae You can doubt all you like, it still happens. What about those that go to more than one high school too?
1st high school in NZ. If they didn't attend school in NZ, then they aren't eligible.
No offence mate but that sounds pretty silly. If anything it should be last high school, not first.
Edit: Or just club you first made a 1st class side from...
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@Bones said in North vs. South:
@mimic said in North vs. South:
@Bones said in North vs. South:
@Bovidae You can doubt all you like, it still happens. What about those that go to more than one high school too?
1st high school in NZ. If they didn't attend school in NZ, then they aren't eligible.
No offence mate but that sounds pretty silly. If anything it should be last high school, not first.
Edit: Or just club you first made a 1st class side from...
It's not silly at all. So many people play for a school, and then move to another school in their final year (and sometimes repeat 7th form) to make the first XV. It happens a lot in Auckland, which why there's a stand down period when you change schools.
Not a fan of clubs, cos they usually poach from the North Island schools anyway.
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@Bones I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it's much less likely a player moves from say Whangarei to Christchurch for school education than the same player moves once they leave school as they are given a university scholarship. If a player goes to schools in both the NI and SI they get to choose which team to represent, as many SOO players can do with their club affiliation.
If this game was played the only interest would be if teammates played against eachother (mate against mate). Otherwise the teams are just an extension of the Super teams.
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@Bovidae said in North vs. South:
@Bones I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it's much less likely a player moves from say Whangarei to Christchurch for school education than the same player moves once they leave school as they are given a university scholarship. If a player goes to schools in both the NI and SI they get to choose which team to represent, as many SOO players can do with their club affiliation.
If this game was played the only interest would be if teammates played against eachother (mate against mate). Otherwise the teams are just an extension of the Super teams.
Yeah that sounds fairer with them able to choose.
Can't say I agree at all on the Super teams extension though - did you look at the teams named earlier in the thread? There's a lot of players playing in the opposite island of their province.
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I've got a better idea that people would be more likely to tune into. Gather 50 of the top NZ players, ABs included. Select two captains, have all players stand out on the field and the two captains just start selecting the other 22 players for their team like schoolyard footy.
The four players not selected run the touch duties and water
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@ACT-Crusader said in North vs. South:
I've got a better idea that people would be more likely to tune into. Gather 50 of the top NZ players, ABs included. Select two captains, have all players stand out on the field and the two captains just start selecting the other 22 players for their team like schoolyard footy.
The four players not selected run the touch duties and water
Oooh, not bad. But let's think big. The NZRU could finance a year's operations. Run a nationwide/international lottery. Winners get to be "captain" (think Ryder Cup) who get to select their teams on a draft basis (you choose one, i choose one), and you get to coach/manage (with some help from the coach you draft).
Who wouldn't tip in a $100 to have a crack at coaching the best players in the country for a week? Some would tip in more than that.
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Mils is an interesting example. Grew up in Southland, played most of his High School rugby down there and still rolls his R's.
But played his last year with Kelston, and all of his first class rugby north of Taupo.
If I had guess to I'd say he probably still considers himself a proud Southlander and if he had the choice would be turning out for the South Island.
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@mariner4life he's no chance but he's an interesting example when determining criteria.
On the other hand I bet Sam Whitelock would consider himself a mainlander nowadays. Stockholm syndrome cough
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@Frye Yes, Mils is the extreme case if you use high school as your origin as he moved from the SI to NI.
A player like Cane moved schools too but only from Reporoa College to Tauranga Boys' College. That type of movement would be much more common and wouldn't affect which team you would be eligible for.
So Read, Whitelock, Smith and Squire would be in the theoretical NI team and Retallick, ALB and DMac in the SI team.