NZ Sevens 2024-25
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@Machpants for me Pathways is the major issue
We have already seen the likes of Carter,Tangitau and Fineangofo transition to Super Rugby and Moses Leo head to the NRL
You cant blame them based on money alone , i know for a fact Leo was only on a 50k contract , add in his Harbour which was around 25k its hardly gonna set you up for lifeTaking away National 7s was just madness it was still a stepping stone from club 7s to provincial 7s and above
You have also got to look in other places i work with a national touch representive , they have some amazing playmakers and steppers in touch , many BF 7s have come from touch and many NRL playmakers from tagThe next step is to pay them carrier wage which keeps them in 7s programme ..
Argentina put a programme together which will see them dominate the 7s circuit with specialist players that totally understand how the game is played ,they have some wonderful athletes that now how to dominate in the air and breakdown and are totally comfortable with ball in hand. -
@Bovidae said in NZ Sevens 2024-25:
I didn't see the game, but the AB7s got thrashed 36-5 by Fiji.
I saw it.
It was embarrassing seeing the difference between the two sides
AB 7s had plenty of ball but have next to no athletic ability to generate clean line breaks let alone tries
Fiji attack was able to just keep offloading until their superior athletic ability eventually told - time and time again
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@Bovidae said in NZ Sevens 2024-25:
I didn't see the game, but the AB7s got thrashed 36-5 by Fiji. They play GB at 4:34 pm in a 5th place SF.
The BF7s SF is at 6:07 pm.
We are in a deep hole at the moment. Hopefully it will trigger some serious rethinking about how we develop our 7s team
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Regarding the recent thrashing of the NZ men’s team by Fiji. …….They have to be kidding……
Seriously it’s just plain sad regarding the current state of NZ men’s sevens rugby. I watched the game and I’m shocked when I compare the hunger and dominance from previous NZ men’s sides. Surely there has to be a better coaching/player setup than this current administration. The men seem ponderous and clueless in attacking and their defence certainly looks ordinary, they constantly miss tackles and seem very disorganised. Where are the players like DJ Forbes who used to continually monster the breakdown ? We are continuously being outplayed by the other sides and it’s become downright embarrassing. Something needs to be done very soon, there has to be better options. -
Just watched the mens loss to GB. The inferior skills of our players are staggering as other teams get better.
Scratching my head at selections. Our best players have been Ng Shiu and Vaenuku. They don't start this one, so game is gone. Mathis was not used well in previous events. Cama is very disappointing in developing players. -
Skills poor in loss to Ireland. Vaenuku was very impressive again. But Cody Vai is not improving, Maka and Rush brothers not much impact.
Biggest thing for me is the lack of support runners and mistrust on defence of players alongside, plus shoddy kickoff and lineouts work.
Knewstubb makes some good runs, but is just not active enough as a playmaker. MGB should be starting surely, but they really missing Rokolisoa.
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The 7s obsession to not get the ball off the pitch and take a halftime lead is wild.
Scrum on your own 10 and you win a free kick. Just kick it out and take the 12-0 halftime lead
Instead BF7s try and run it out from their own line and concede a try
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Black Ferns Sevens team
2. Jorja Miller
3. Stacey Waaka
4. Mahina Paul
5. Sarah Hirini (c)
6. Michaela Brake
7. Risaleaana Pouri-Lane
11. Maia Davis
13. Jazmin Felix-Hotham
23. Jaymie Kolose*
44. Justine McGregor
82. Olive Watherston
88. Kelsey Teneti
97. Le’Oxeayn Maiu’u*Not available due to injury: Manaia Nuku, Shiray Kaka
Not available due to Black Ferns: Dhys Faleafaga, Alena Saili, Theresa SetefanoAll Blacks Sevens team
- Amanaki Nicole
- Brady Rush
- Tone Ng Shiu
- Akuila Rokolisoa
- Dylan Collier (c)
- Kitiona Vai
- Jack Gray
- Rob Rush
- Ngarohi McGarvey-Black
- Codemeru Vai
- Regan Ware
- Frank Vaenuku
- Sofai Maka
- Sam Howling*
Not available due to injury/illness: Joe Webber, Sione Molia, Andrew Knewstubb, Joey Taumateine, Oli Mathis, Xavier Tito-Harris, Lewis Ormond and Roderick Solo
*denotes potential debutant
https://www.allblacks.com/news/sevens-teams-named-for-los-angeles-championship-tournament
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Bloody amazing year from the Women!
Head and shoulders above the rest of the world, winning 4 of 6 tournaments plus the championship.And well done to Jorga Miller, doulbe awards, Player of the Final as well as Women's Player of the Year!
It is scary just how good she is and how much better she might well get, absoultely deserved!
As for the Men, best not to mention them except to say this tournament was one of their better ones given a third place finish, their first podium finish for the season.
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@KiwiPie said in NZ Sevens 2024-25:
Watched some highlights of the Black Ferns from the first day, some new faces appeared because of the players joining the 15s squad - all the newbies looked very impressive
Polar opposite from the mens program