Blues v Crusaders
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@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Landers92 said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
rumour spreading that maca springer is dropped to the bench
Imagine scoring 5 tries and being dropped for Fihakiā¦
This is the opportune moment for any CEO/coach of another NZ team to go after Springer. With Lester coming back next year Springer may not even make the 23 so if you offered him a contract now he may just take it. Looking at you Avan Lee/Clark Laidlaw.
I don't think anyone is going to be beating down doors for Springer. At best, he'd be a slight upgrade on Jonah Lowe.
Bad comparison, at least compare him to someone that gets on the park.
Macca Springer has been around a while but he's still only 22. I'd definitely back him to come right at some stage and he'd be an improvement on some of the Canes outsides we have in the squad atm.
You could also argue he's starting to come right, in one appearance he scored five tries. Hard to argue with. Lowe would have fluffed half those chances.
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@nzzp said in Blues v Crusaders:
From a mate:
Q: when was the last time EB played 4 games in 4 weeks?Answer: May 2022
insert glass gif here
When Razor selects him for the ABs this year you can bet he'll go on about his amazing toughness, durability and character.
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@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
Bad comparison, at least compare him to someone that gets on the park.
Ummm... wouldn't that make him an upgrade?
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@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
Bad comparison, at least compare him to someone that gets on the park.
Ummm... wouldn't that make him an upgrade?
Scoring 5 tries in your debut game of the season is a little more than a 'slight' upgrade when comparing him to someone that never plays.
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@Canes4life I could see a scenario where he makes the ABs squad this year as wing/fullback cover and is reported like some huge bolter than came out of nowhere, when he was a schoolboy star who was one of our best U20s players of his year. The combo of a small school, playing for Ta$man and the Crusaders having a bad year last year means he's flown under the radar for the average rugby follower.
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@HugeCarrot2 said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Canes4life I could see a scenario where he makes the ABs squad this year as wing/fullback cover and is reported like some huge bolter than came out of nowhere, when he was a schoolboy star who was one of our best U20s players of his year. The combo of a small school, playing for Ta$man and the Crusaders having a bad year last year means he's flown under the radar for the average rugby follower.
He has plenty of upside and I'd imagine if he came available all franchises would jump at the chance to sign him. He had a poor season last year but so did the rest of the Crusaders. I think he's got a massive future in the game but in saying that he might find it hard to nail down a starting spot at the Crusaders if Lester comes back in next year, hence why he may look to go elsewhere.
The Canes would be a nice fit. Riley Higgins and Harry Godfrey played with him in the under 20s so already have that connection but I'm obviously being hopeful rather than anything.
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@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
@HugeCarrot2 said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Canes4life I could see a scenario where he makes the ABs squad this year as wing/fullback cover and is reported like some huge bolter than came out of nowhere, when he was a schoolboy star who was one of our best U20s players of his year. The combo of a small school, playing for Ta$man and the Crusaders having a bad year last year means he's flown under the radar for the average rugby follower.
He has plenty of upside and I'd imagine if he came available all franchises would jump at the chance to sign him. He had a poor season last year but so did the rest of the Crusaders. I think he's got a massive future in the game but in saying that he might find it hard to nail down a starting spot at the Crusaders if Lester comes back in next year, hence why he may look to go elsewhere.
The Canes would be a nice fit. Riley Higgins and Harry Godfrey played with him in the under 20s so already have that connection but I'm obviously being hopeful rather than anything.
I think Springer is working through his next Crusaders contract. So not intent on moving.
Lester I hear is maybe being looked at as a center after his stint in France playing 13.
Ennor,Amua and Havilli all of contract odds on one will move on. -
@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
Bad comparison, at least compare him to someone that gets on the park.
Ummm... wouldn't that make him an upgrade?
Scoring 5 tries in your debut game of the season is a little more than a 'slight' upgrade when comparing him to someone that never plays.
To be fair, Lowe did score four tries for the Chiefs in one game.
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@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
@HugeCarrot2 said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Canes4life I could see a scenario where he makes the ABs squad this year as wing/fullback cover and is reported like some huge bolter than came out of nowhere, when he was a schoolboy star who was one of our best U20s players of his year. The combo of a small school, playing for Ta$man and the Crusaders having a bad year last year means he's flown under the radar for the average rugby follower.
He has plenty of upside and I'd imagine if he came available all franchises would jump at the chance to sign him. He had a poor season last year but so did the rest of the Crusaders. I think he's got a massive future in the game but in saying that he might find it hard to nail down a starting spot at the Crusaders if Lester comes back in next year, hence why he may look to go elsewhere.
The Canes would be a nice fit. Riley Higgins and Harry Godfrey played with him in the under 20s so already have that connection but I'm obviously being hopeful rather than anything.
I think Springer is working through his next Crusaders contract.So not intent on moving.
Lester I hear is maybe being looked at as a center after his stint in France playing 13.
Ennor,Amua and Havilli all of contract odds on one will move on.Ennor is probably the likely one to move on after recent rumours.
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@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
@HugeCarrot2 said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Canes4life I could see a scenario where he makes the ABs squad this year as wing/fullback cover and is reported like some huge bolter than came out of nowhere, when he was a schoolboy star who was one of our best U20s players of his year. The combo of a small school, playing for Ta$man and the Crusaders having a bad year last year means he's flown under the radar for the average rugby follower.
He has plenty of upside and I'd imagine if he came available all franchises would jump at the chance to sign him. He had a poor season last year but so did the rest of the Crusaders. I think he's got a massive future in the game but in saying that he might find it hard to nail down a starting spot at the Crusaders if Lester comes back in next year, hence why he may look to go elsewhere.
The Canes would be a nice fit. Riley Higgins and Harry Godfrey played with him in the under 20s so already have that connection but I'm obviously being hopeful rather than anything.
I think Springer is working through his next Crusaders contract.So not intent on moving.
Lester I hear is maybe being looked at as a center after his stint in France playing 13.
Ennor,Amua and Havilli all of contract odds on one will move on.Ennor is probably the likely one to move on after recent rumours.
Yep good chance or Amua.
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Sounds like Patrick will be gone for the season. Was removed from the training field on a golf buggy, doesn't sound good.
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@george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:
I've messaged him waiting for response, finger crossed.
Fingers crossed it's not super serious, will be a huge loss for the Blues.
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@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
@george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:
I've messaged him waiting for response, finger crossed.
Fingers crossed it's not super serious, will be a huge loss for the Blues.
Losing both starting locks (Darry, Patty) is tough. Our injury list is brutal.
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Bugger.....shit happens I guess.
Good chance for a few of the youngsters to stake their claim.
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@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:
Bad comparison, at least compare him to someone that gets on the park.
Ummm... wouldn't that make him an upgrade?
Scoring 5 tries in your debut game of the season is a little more than a 'slight' upgrade when comparing him to someone that never plays.
Don't be an idiot, Lowe has certainly played before. As has been pointed out, he's also scored tries...
I'd take Springer as an upgrade on Lowe at the highlanders. Wouldn't be happy with him in front of Jim, Caleb or Hurley though.
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@HugeCarrot2 said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones I saw him play plenty in U20s, both super and for NZ in 2022. He and Bell were the two best players of that crop through those games, especially in a NZ team that went quite badly given some of the talent they had. Bell's had injury problems since obviously, not sure what happened to Springer last couple of years as I don't see Ta$man play and missed last years Super Rugby, but he was an excellent wing/fullback who didn't make many errors at U20 level and a good kicker. Would be very odd if he doesn't get plenty of gametime from here on out as he was excellent last week.
Worth noting despite going to a smaller school in Waimea he was player of the tournament in the Crusaders schools comp in 2020. Fair to suggest given his history at lower levels, he's been more on the AB coaches long term radar than many realise, similar to Bell last year.
Is that you Rangi š
Big fan of Springer and what he could bring as a potential fullback option.
On the sides, with Beaudie out, that surely makes the Blues favouriteās for this one?
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@ACT-Crusader I should have pointed out he was in both the 2022 and 2023 NZ U20 teams-the 2023 one was where I thought he was our best, 2022 would have gone Bell. Already had 4 ABs from the 2022 team with Sititi, Bell, Hotham, Lakai and likely Holland soon enough. I think anytime someone looks very good at that level the coaches get an idea of what they can do and are prepared to overlook a rough first season starting like many players had with the Crusaders had last year. As Bell's selection shows.
