Super Rugby 2025
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TJ raving about Harry Godfrey.
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He has strong Beauden Barrett vibes to me.
I know this is a strange thing to say about a guy who has more than 100 caps, has won super rugby as the starting 10, and is currently our preferred 10, but Barrett has never really found a position where he can show his skillset appropriately (apart from Goldenballs super sub). He's a fully amazing rugby player, but he's never really been in the conversation for best ever at 10 or at FB.
With respect to this player, I hope he gets a chance to choose a position and can commit to it. He looks an incredible footballer, and we will see how he developed, but I hope we gets the chance to become a 10 or a 15.
My opinion btw is that the Canes would be mad to move him. Love looks a more natural 15 but either way they've got their 10/15 partnership for years if they don't fuck it up.
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A playmaking axis of 9. Roigard 10. Godfrey and 15. Love going forward is pretty bloody decent for the Canes, hope they sign all three on long term contracts.
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@Bones said in Super Rugby 2025:
@gt12 as good as Smith was, he wasn't an out and out playmaker like Roigard (and the likes of Weepu), so hopefully the combined style will work better.
Which leads me back to my drum that DMac should have had a go at halfback.
In the modern game, you can make a good argument that the key playmaker is the 9 anyway, so when you look at it like that, the Canes are very very well placed.
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@gt12 said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2025:
@gt12 as good as Smith was, he wasn't an out and out playmaker like Roigard (and the likes of Weepu), so hopefully the combined style will work better.
Which leads me back to my drum that DMac should have had a go at halfback.
In the modern game, you can make a good argument that the key playmaker is the 9 anyway, so when you look at it like that, the Canes are very very well placed.
And the chiefs - they're doing it very nicely with the 9 running the cutter early doors before bringing in DMac later in the game.
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In protest at the preposterous scoring system for the Player of the Year Award, I have re-scored it using a neutral 3,2,1 system, based on my own feeling. I have seen just about every game, though followed the actually scoring for a handful of these.
Round One
CRU v HUR
Preston - 3
Fineanganofo - 2
Reece - 1WAR v HIG
Tavatavanawai - 3
Porecki - 2
Amone - 1DRU v BRU
Reimer - 3
Karawalevu - 2
Hooper - 1BLU v CHI
McKenzie - 3
Ah Kuoi - 2
Jacobson - 1FOR v MOA
Donaldson - 3
Williams - 2
Havili Talitui - 1Round Two
CHI v CRU
Tupaea - 3
Parker - 2
Vaa’i - 1RED v MOA
McReight - 3
Taumoefolau - 2
Wilson - 1HUR v DRU
Godfrey - 3
M Murray - 2
Kirifi - 1HIG v BLU
Hurley - 3
Tavatavanawai - 2
Fakatava - 1BRU v FOR
White - 3
Tizzano - 2
Cale - 1Round Three
MOA v HIG
Savea - 3
Hastie - 2
Sanerivi - 1WAR v DRU
Gleeson - 3
Karawalevu - 2
Porecki - 1CHI v BRU
Tupaea - 3
Vaa’i - 2
Toole - 1HUR v BLU
Riccitelli - 3
Godfrey - 2
Shields - 1FOR v RED
McDermott - 3
Tizzano - 2
Grealy - 1Leaderboard:
[6] Tupaea
[5] Tavatavanawai, Godfrey
[4] Karawalevu, Tizzano
[3] Preston, Reimer, McKenzie, Donaldson, McReight, N White, A Savea, Porecki, Gleeson, Vaa'i, Riccitelli, McDermott
[2] Fineanganofo, Ah Kuoi, J Williams, Parker, Taumoefolau, M Murray, Hurley, Hastie
[1] Reece, Amone, T Hooper, Jacobson, Havili Talitui, H Wilson, Kirifi, Fakatava, Cale, Sanerivi, Toole, Shields, GrealyTo me, this feels a better representation of what we have seen so far. Ardie Savea hasn't been the best player, and Mark Telea certainly hasn't been the fifth best.
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@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
In protest at the preposterous scoring system for the Player of the Year Award, I have re-scored it using a neutral 3,2,1 system, based on my own feeling. I have seen just about every game, though followed the actually scoring for a handful of these.
Round One
CRU v HUR
Preston - 3
Fineanganofo - 2
Reece - 1WAR v HIG
Tavatavanawai - 3
Porecki - 2
Amone - 1DRU v BRU
Reimer - 3
Karawalevu - 2
Hooper - 1BLU v CHI
McKenzie - 3
Ah Kuoi - 2
Jacobson - 1FOR v MOA
Donaldson - 3
Williams - 2
Havili Talitui - 1Round Two
CHI v CRU
Tupaea - 3
Parker - 2
Vaa’i - 1RED v MOA
McReight - 3
Taumoefolau - 2
Wilson - 1HUR v DRU
Godfrey - 3
M Murray - 2
Kirifi - 1HIG v BLU
Hurley - 3
Tavatavanawai - 2
Fakatava - 1BRU v FOR
White - 3
Tizzano - 2
Cale - 1Round Three
MOA v HIG
Savea - 3
Hastie - 2
Sanerivi - 1WAR v DRU
Gleeson - 3
Karawalevu - 2
Porecki - 1CHI v BRU
Tupaea - 3
Vaa’i - 2
Toole - 1HUR v BLU
Riccitelli - 3
Godfrey - 2
Shields - 1FOR v RED
McDermott - 3
Tizzano - 2
Grealy - 1Leaderboard:
[6] Tupaea
[5] Tavatavanawai, Godfrey
[4] Karawalevu, Tizzano
[3] Preston, Reimer, McKenzie, Donaldson, McReight, N White, A Savea, Porecki, Gleeson, Vaa'i, Riccitelli, McDermott
[2] Fineanganofo, Ah Kuoi, J Williams, Parker, Taumoefolau, M Murray, Hurley, Hastie
[1] Reece, Amone, T Hooper, Jacobson, Havili Talitui, H Wilson, Kirifi, Fakatava, Cale, Sanerivi, Toole, Shields, GrealyTo me, this feels a better representation of what we have seen so far. Ardie Savea hasn't been the best player, and Mark Telea certainly hasn't been the fifth best.
Nice job, this looks far more accurate.
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Moana vs Chiefs in round 6 has been moved from Tonga to Pukekohe.
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Super Rugby Pacific Round Four Injury/Unavailability list
*TBC time/injury unless specifiedBlues
Kurt Eklund (groin)
Laghlan McWhannell (leg)
PJ Sheck (shoulder)
Zarn Sullivan (foot)
Stephen Perofeta (calf)
Ben Ake (shoulder)
Hoskins Sotutu (suspended)
Dalton Papali’i (head injury)
James Mullan (head injury)
Sam Darry (shoulder, season)
Reon Paul (shoulder)
Taufa Funaki (shoulder)
Adrian Choat (knee)Brumbies
Noah Lolesio (concussion/round five)
Rob Valetini (hamstring tear/TBC)
Tevita Alatini (knee/TBC)
Ben O’Donnell (hamstring/TBC)
Harry Vella (knee/TBC)
Tuaina Taii Tualima (dengue/TBC)Chiefs
Damian McKenzie, Knee, Short term
Josh Lord, Knee, Mid-term (4-6 weeks)
Luke Jacobson, Facial injury, Short-term
Rameka Poihipi, Knee, Season
Kaleb Trask, Hamstring, Mid-term (4-6 weeks)
Etene Nanai-Seturo, Hamstring, Long-term
Liam Coombes-Fabling, Knee, Mid-term (4-6 weeks)
Fiti Sa, Shoulder, Long-term
Wallace Sititi, Knee, Long-term
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Shoulder, Short-termCrusaders
George Bell (toe/foot / season)
Kershawl Sykes-Martin (knee / 4 weeks)
Finlay Brewis (shoulder / season)
Rivez Reihana (ankle / 1-2 weeks)
Seb Calder (AC joint / 1-2 weeks)
Quentin Strange (Pec/hamstring / 1-2 weeks)
Dom Gardiner (hamstring / 3-5 weeks)
Jamie Hannah (shoulder / 4-6 weeks)
Aki Tuivailala (finger / 1-2 weeks)
Johnny McNicholll (hamstring / 3-5 weeks)
Noah Hotahm (ankle/ 5 weeks)Fijian Drua
Epeli Momo (Knee)Hurricanes
Zach Gallagher (Achilles / round 5)
Daniel Sinkinson (hamstring / round
Lucas Cashmore (knee / round 5-7)
Brett Cameron (knee / season)
Asafo Aumua (foot / round 5-7)
Tyrel Lomax (ankle / round 5)
Kade Banks (concussion / round five)
Raymond Tuputupu (concussion / round five)
Devan Flanders (ankle / round 14)
Tjay Clarke (shoulder/ round 9)
Riley Higgins (hand / round 7)
Billy Proctor (Achilles / TBC)Moana Pasifika
Fine Inisi (quad)
Julian Savea (knee)
Neria Fomai (knee/out for season)
Sione Havili Talitui (ankle)
Tito Tuipulotu (knee)NSW Waratahs
Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii (toe)
Lalakai Foketi (groin)
Fergus Lee-Warner (foot)
Lucas Ripley (shoulder)Queensland Reds
Jock Campbell
Josh Flook
Matt Gibbon
Mason Gordon
Isaac Henry
Will McCulloch
Lukhan Salakaia-Loto
Seru Uru
Hunter Paisami (suspension)Western Force
Harry Johnson-Holmes (knee)
Bayley Kuenzle (knee)
Harry Hoopert (knee)
Divad Palu (shoulder)
Matt Proctor (shoulder)
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Moana Pasifika’s Super Rugby Pacific match in Tonga relocated to Pukekohe – Moana Pasifika
Super Rugby Pacific Injury list: Round 4
