Chiefs v Brumbies
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@NTA said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
@Bones said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
That's karma for every fucking bullshit pass that went to hand.
Which team are we talking about?
Not the waratahs anyway.
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@Bones said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
@Frank said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
Is Jacomb looking AB level ? (he asking keenly hoping for a Beauden Barret replacement)
Not yet. Godfrey looking better.
Godfrey looks like the kid who always had to play with bigger kids and learned to be a tough little fluffybunny doing it.
Good to watch.
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@Darren said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
Brumbies just keep seeming to have an extra man out wide. Seems Chiefs having a hard time numbering up.
Just watched the game and this was quite noticeable. The Brumbies are, at times, using double backdoor pods in attack, which can create easy overlaps in the backline. It's a system used by quite a few teams. Taranaki, through their attack coach Brad Cooper, have used it to good effect. He also employed it with the NZ U20s last season.
You can recognize it pretty easily when you see attack lining up in a so-called "stack formation", creating extra options out wide.
Example from game against DruaTypical is that the wings come in-field to act as extra passing options, in order to outnumber the defence.
I suppose what is surprising to me is that it took the Chiefs so long to find defensive solutions for it. What you want to do against this attack is launch defenders into those backdoor options. When the Chiefs finally started doing that - in the 80th minute - ALB scored that turnover try.
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@Mauss exactly - flood their options channels and they either have to keep the ball, or inevitably make a blind pass you can intercept.
The benefit then is they're horribly compromised in defence. Extremely difficult to transition, but the Brumbies benefit from having genuine pace in their back three.
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@antipodean said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
exactly - flood their options channels and they either have to keep the ball, or inevitably make a blind pass you can intercept.
The benefit then is they're horribly compromised in defence. Extremely difficult to transition, but the Brumbies benefit from having genuine pace in their back three.
It does look like the Brumbies have good scramble defence, with their quick back three like you say, as well as a quick loose forward trio, with players like Reimer, Scott and Cale. Even when the Chiefs broke the line, the Brumbies were able to reorganize pretty well. It's more their defensive structure which seems to be causing issues.
They're also using the double backdoor pods selectively, mostly from set-piece situations or turnover ball. So their attack has looked pretty good but their defence has lost them a few games already.
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@akan004 said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
Aussie teams are no longer the easybeats they once were.
About time too
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@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
The Brumbies have always been the standard for Australia. They've been their top-ranked side in cross- Ta$man competitions since 2021. So they're not really the litmus test for Australian strength...
Good point but it looks as though they might be 3rd best Aussie team this year
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@Frank said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
Is Jacomb looking AB level ? (asking keenly hoping for a Beauden Barret replacement)
Well I think he is. But I also been on his wagon all last year , saying he next long term AB 10 , so I probably biased. I also think Godfrey from Canes is looking not bad.
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@taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
Breakdowns are a mess...off feet, playing ball on deck
That's what you get with Doleman. Anything goes, until it doesn't.
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@Mattasaurus said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
thought there might've been a bigger crowd... what's the attendance?
~11500.
There were a lot of empty seats around me which are usually full with non-season members.
Charging 2-3 times the normal price for a ticket because of the musicians was always going to be a big mistake. I wouldn't have went along if I had to buy a ticket on the day. And it was fuckin' hot for those of us not sitting in the covered stands.
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As to the game, I didn't think that the Chiefs played that well. It's as if the conditions meant the forwards got carried away playing without doing the hard work up front. Better after a HT word.
This was never going to be an easy game, but the Chiefs are making a habit of having a strong 2nd half. The game was still in the balance when DMac went off and the Chiefs only had 14 players on the field.
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@Bovidae I think the Brumbies did well to disrupt a lot of ball but they fell away once Reimer left the field
They were missing missing both Hooper and Valentini who gives them so much gainline
Jury is still out on Brown , gets around the paddock but I don’t see him having a higher ceiling than what he’s showing at the minute -
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
@gt12 said in Chiefs v Brumbies:
Mataele is a terrible signing for us.
The slowest Fijian winger I've seen live. He's only a WTG player and shouldn't be near the 23 once everyone is fit.
Weird to think he's still running round in NZ in 2025. He was destined for big things I feel at around 2018/19 but injuries have certainly caught up with him.
