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@Victor-Meldrew said in Movie review thread...:
@Bovidae said in Movie review thread...:
Alien 3 was David Fincher's directorial debut. He's now disowned the movie although a lot of the problems are due to the meddling of 20th Century Fox. It does have the most iconic shot of the whole franchise.
Wasn't Vincent Ward in line to helm that but there was a falling-out with the producers?
Alien 3 is one of the most infamous production around.
It went through several writers and directors. Even once they settled on Fincher the script wasnt even complete.Ward was attached before filming, he had a pretty wild storyline involving Monks on a floating wooden world.
Which was tweaked a bit and ended up being what it was in the end.Fincher at the time was solely known for directing music videos..
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Ward still gets a writing credit, although I'm not sure how he feels about the final product. He and Renny Harlin both quit as directors in pre-production.
Fincher has been very vocal:
First-time director David Fincher disowned the film, stating in an interview with the Guardian: "I had to work on it for two years, got fired off it three times and I had to fight for every single thing. No one hated it more than me; to this day, no one hates it more than me". He cited constant studio interference during production, and actually walked out when the studio rejected his initial cut and ordered extensive re-shoots. He was not involved in the final cut, but his initial rough cut later became the basis for the 'Assembly Cut', a longer version of the movie released on DVD in 2003, and on Blu-ray in 2010. Although Fincher was asked to work on this Assembly Cut, he considered it but eventually decided against it, giving supervising producer Charles de Lauzirika his blessing as long as it was not called a 'Director's cut'. With regards to the new version itself, he stated that he has no comments on it, as he has never seen it.
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@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@Bovidae said in Movie review thread...:
Over the last couple of weeks I have been working my way through the Alien Anthology box set (Alien to Alien Resurrection). Firstly I watched the theatrical release followed by the Directors Cut/Special Edition for each movie. In all instances I preferred the latter versions. I'm pretty sure I hadn't seen Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection since the movie was released, but certainly not in the last 20 years. Aliens is still my favourite because it has the right balance of sci-fi horror and action, but the original is still a classic. The latter two movies are fine but nowhere near the first two in the series. I had forgotten that Alien 3 was David Fincher's directorial debut. He's now disowned the movie although a lot of the problems are due to the meddling of 20th Century Fox. It does have the most iconic shot of the whole franchise.
The only thing Alien fans agree with is the first two are brilliant.
Loads of arguing after that
Luckily for me I have only watched those two, haven't watched any of the sequels or spin offs.
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@Nepia said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@Bovidae said in Movie review thread...:
Over the last couple of weeks I have been working my way through the Alien Anthology box set (Alien to Alien Resurrection). Firstly I watched the theatrical release followed by the Directors Cut/Special Edition for each movie. In all instances I preferred the latter versions. I'm pretty sure I hadn't seen Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection since the movie was released, but certainly not in the last 20 years. Aliens is still my favourite because it has the right balance of sci-fi horror and action, but the original is still a classic. The latter two movies are fine but nowhere near the first two in the series. I had forgotten that Alien 3 was David Fincher's directorial debut. He's now disowned the movie although a lot of the problems are due to the meddling of 20th Century Fox. It does have the most iconic shot of the whole franchise.
The only thing Alien fans agree with is the first two are brilliant.
Loads of arguing after that
Luckily for me I have only watched those two, haven't watched any of the sequels or spin offs.
Give Alien: Romulus a go, thoroughly enjoyed it.
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@Virgil said in Movie review thread...:
@Nepia said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@Bovidae said in Movie review thread...:
Over the last couple of weeks I have been working my way through the Alien Anthology box set (Alien to Alien Resurrection). Firstly I watched the theatrical release followed by the Directors Cut/Special Edition for each movie. In all instances I preferred the latter versions. I'm pretty sure I hadn't seen Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection since the movie was released, but certainly not in the last 20 years. Aliens is still my favourite because it has the right balance of sci-fi horror and action, but the original is still a classic. The latter two movies are fine but nowhere near the first two in the series. I had forgotten that Alien 3 was David Fincher's directorial debut. He's now disowned the movie although a lot of the problems are due to the meddling of 20th Century Fox. It does have the most iconic shot of the whole franchise.
The only thing Alien fans agree with is the first two are brilliant.
Loads of arguing after that
Luckily for me I have only watched those two, haven't watched any of the sequels or spin offs.
Give Alien: Romulus a go, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Id be happy to say its the best Alien movie since the original 2TBH, despite enjoying those original two immensely I have no interest in watching any more of them. That day has passed for me.
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@Virgil said in Movie review thread...:
@Nepia said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@Bovidae said in Movie review thread...:
Over the last couple of weeks I have been working my way through the Alien Anthology box set (Alien to Alien Resurrection). Firstly I watched the theatrical release followed by the Directors Cut/Special Edition for each movie. In all instances I preferred the latter versions. I'm pretty sure I hadn't seen Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection since the movie was released, but certainly not in the last 20 years. Aliens is still my favourite because it has the right balance of sci-fi horror and action, but the original is still a classic. The latter two movies are fine but nowhere near the first two in the series. I had forgotten that Alien 3 was David Fincher's directorial debut. He's now disowned the movie although a lot of the problems are due to the meddling of 20th Century Fox. It does have the most iconic shot of the whole franchise.
The only thing Alien fans agree with is the first two are brilliant.
Loads of arguing after that
Luckily for me I have only watched those two, haven't watched any of the sequels or spin offs.
Give Alien: Romulus a go, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Id be happy to say its the best Alien movie since the original 2strangely enough i watched it over the weekend too and agreed, enjoyed
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@Virgil said in Movie review thread...:
@Nepia said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@Bovidae said in Movie review thread...:
Over the last couple of weeks I have been working my way through the Alien Anthology box set (Alien to Alien Resurrection). Firstly I watched the theatrical release followed by the Directors Cut/Special Edition for each movie. In all instances I preferred the latter versions. I'm pretty sure I hadn't seen Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection since the movie was released, but certainly not in the last 20 years. Aliens is still my favourite because it has the right balance of sci-fi horror and action, but the original is still a classic. The latter two movies are fine but nowhere near the first two in the series. I had forgotten that Alien 3 was David Fincher's directorial debut. He's now disowned the movie although a lot of the problems are due to the meddling of 20th Century Fox. It does have the most iconic shot of the whole franchise.
The only thing Alien fans agree with is the first two are brilliant.
Loads of arguing after that
Luckily for me I have only watched those two, haven't watched any of the sequels or spin offs.
Give Alien: Romulus a go, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Id be happy to say its the best Alien movie since the original 2I had to do a google search to remember which one this was.
And confirmed - it was the most recent - which I didn't enjoy that much. It just seemed to be trying too hard with the constant callbacks to original... Roger Ebert: "...it’s disappointing how often Alvarez and company felt like they had to go back to what could be called fan service with lines and easter eggs that feel overly calculated for our referential culture of late."
Whereas Maverick trod that fine-line perfectly - I thought Romulus was massively ham-fisted. I'll give it another go one day, and see if I can switch off the irritation at that part of it. -
i love maverick but i feel it was far from walking a line, if anything it wadded full on over the line, rather than a nod to the original...straight up replicated scenes, the beach, playing the piano, etc
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@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
i love maverick but i feel it was far from walking a line, if anything it wadded full on over the line, rather than a nod to the original...straight up replicated scenes, the beach, playing the piano, etc
And yet unlike SW it was lauded
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@canefan said in Movie review thread...:
@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
i love maverick but i feel it was far from walking a line, if anything it wadded full on over the line, rather than a nod to the original...straight up replicated scenes, the beach, playing the piano, etc
And yet unlike SW it was lauded
Yeah - it just worked. That's what I mean by walking the line - it was straight up constant references/scenes-from the original - but it somehow didn't feel derivative, or "look how clever we are with this nod/wink", or any of those traps. It just worked. Shoehorn in a ridiculous plot so that we get to see an F-14 - sure, fuck it - why not. Not even going to question it - because now I get to see Tom Cruise in an F-14 against fucking "5th Generation fighters", and I love how ridiculous it is.
Criminally low titwatch, however, considering my teenage crush Jennifer Connelly was in it. -
@canefan said in Movie review thread...:
@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
i love maverick but i feel it was far from walking a line, if anything it wadded full on over the line, rather than a nod to the original...straight up replicated scenes, the beach, playing the piano, etc
And yet unlike SW it was lauded
i kind of felt most people thought the force awakens was ok, some on the nose fan service but they were trying to win back people after the prequels....little did they know how bad it COULD get
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@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
@Virgil said in Movie review thread...:
@Nepia said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@Bovidae said in Movie review thread...:
Over the last couple of weeks I have been working my way through the Alien Anthology box set (Alien to Alien Resurrection). Firstly I watched the theatrical release followed by the Directors Cut/Special Edition for each movie. In all instances I preferred the latter versions. I'm pretty sure I hadn't seen Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection since the movie was released, but certainly not in the last 20 years. Aliens is still my favourite because it has the right balance of sci-fi horror and action, but the original is still a classic. The latter two movies are fine but nowhere near the first two in the series. I had forgotten that Alien 3 was David Fincher's directorial debut. He's now disowned the movie although a lot of the problems are due to the meddling of 20th Century Fox. It does have the most iconic shot of the whole franchise.
The only thing Alien fans agree with is the first two are brilliant.
Loads of arguing after that
Luckily for me I have only watched those two, haven't watched any of the sequels or spin offs.
Give Alien: Romulus a go, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Id be happy to say its the best Alien movie since the original 2I had to do a google search to remember which one this was.
And confirmed - it was the most recent - which I didn't enjoy that much. It just seemed to be trying too hard with the constant callbacks to original... Roger Ebert: "...it’s disappointing how often Alvarez and company felt like they had to go back to what could be called fan service with lines and easter eggs that feel overly calculated for our referential culture of late."
Whereas Maverick trod that fine-line perfectly - I thought Romulus was massively ham-fisted. I'll give it another go one day, and see if I can switch off the irritation at that part of it.IMO Romulus suffers from borrowing too much in the second half of the movie. The first half is perfectly good. The second half is still watchable.
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@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
@canefan said in Movie review thread...:
@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
i love maverick but i feel it was far from walking a line, if anything it wadded full on over the line, rather than a nod to the original...straight up replicated scenes, the beach, playing the piano, etc
And yet unlike SW it was lauded
Yeah - it just worked. That's what I mean by walking the line - it was straight up constant references/scenes-from the original - but it somehow didn't feel derivative, or "look how clever we are with this nod/wink", or any of those traps. It just worked. Shoehorn in a ridiculous plot so that we get to see an F-14 - sure, fuck it - why not. Not even going to question it - because now I get to see Tom Cruise in an F-14 against fucking "5th Generation fighters", and I love how ridiculous it is.
The perfect reboot to make people feel good again, like they did in the 80s.
Criminally low titwatch, however, considering my teenage crush Jennifer Connelly was in it.
She needs to stop running.
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@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
Roger Ebert: "...it’s disappointing how often Alvarez and company felt like they had to go back to what could be called fan service with lines and easter eggs that feel overly calculated for our referential culture of late."
is Ebert reviewing movies in the afterlife?
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@Bovidae said in Movie review thread...:
@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
Roger Ebert: "...it’s disappointing how often Alvarez and company felt like they had to go back to what could be called fan service with lines and easter eggs that feel overly calculated for our referential culture of late."
is Ebert reviewing movies in the afterlife?
Good point - I did have a hint of "huh?" - but didn't follow the thought through.
"Brian Tallerico, the Managing Editor of RogerEbert.com"
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@antipodean said in Movie review thread...:
@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
@canefan said in Movie review thread...:
@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
i love maverick but i feel it was far from walking a line, if anything it wadded full on over the line, rather than a nod to the original...straight up replicated scenes, the beach, playing the piano, etc
And yet unlike SW it was lauded
Yeah - it just worked. That's what I mean by walking the line - it was straight up constant references/scenes-from the original - but it somehow didn't feel derivative, or "look how clever we are with this nod/wink", or any of those traps. It just worked. Shoehorn in a ridiculous plot so that we get to see an F-14 - sure, fuck it - why not. Not even going to question it - because now I get to see Tom Cruise in an F-14 against fucking "5th Generation fighters", and I love how ridiculous it is.
The perfect reboot to make people feel good again, like they did in the 80s.
Criminally low titwatch, however, considering my teenage crush Jennifer Connelly was in it.
She needs to stop running.
Indeed, I much prefer that…..
….to this
Not saying she’s not still hot, but that younger version was sensational
Two big reasons for that
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absolutely unreal in Blood Diamond
but i've loved her since Labyrinth so i am glad she's beneath all you adonis's
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@Nepia said in Movie review thread...:
I find the Jennifer Connelly discussions on here hilarious, she's in her bloody 50s, of course she's not going to have the puppy fat and associated boobies.
> Just watch Inventing the Abbots.
And yeah yeah stating the obvious.
I remember the flatties were watching that and a bunch of us came home during JCs scene. Naturally we sat down and watched the rest but she was barely in it. Her tits weren’t in it again at all.
Really stink
I don’t know or care who the Abbots were or what they invented but those bombs fucken rocked.
