2025 6Ns
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@Catogrande said in 2025 6Ns:
Definition of a true supporter - even in adversity!
Ireland v France is likely to be the crunch game, Scotland looking at third place but well capable of causing an upset and sneaking second. England could easily top the table but only if all games are limited to 60 minutes. Wales and Italy to fight it out at the bottom. All this said with the caveat that it is the 6N and firm often goes out the window.
Funny thing is mate, no Welsh blood or anything in me, just always supported Wales because in my life they have felt to having the closest relationship with rugby to us in NZ (and SA). Also helps best mate in Aus is also Welsh, and after having holiday over there a month or so back just confirmed it all for me. And I really enjoyed mixing (and always have) with the Welsh people.
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@MiketheSnow said in 2025 6Ns:
Going to be very interesting
Ireland without Farrell
Should be Ireland or France to win the 6N but as Cato said form counts for nothing
Neck on line time
We get our best players fit and playing and we beat both Italy and Scotland; come close against England; and get whooped by both France and Ireland.
Injuries and shit selections and we'll be lucky to have the Wooden Spoon.
Yep it's all going to be close Mike, I actually quite rate the Scots, so realistically beating Italy would be first goal , and then anything after would be considered upset and a bonus. I will be yelling and cheering regardlesss!
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Where do Wales and Italy play?
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Thanks @sparky could have just told me to google ...
8 February 2025
15:15 CET (UTC+1)
Italy v Wales
Stadio Olimpico, Rome
Referee: Matthew Carley (England)[3]8 March 2025
14:15 GMT (UTC+0)
Ireland v France
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
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Dewi Lake gone for 12 weeks
Not a good start
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Fancy France to win it, Ireland probably second but will be interesting to see if they really are on the down slope. Scotland probably are the second best side at the moment. England - who bloody knows, no coaches of any quality to speak of, paranoid head coach, I shall be watching through my fingers. Wales and Italy? No. One. Cares
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Fergus Burke in mix for Scotland call-up
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Wales Squad, no Anscombe despite Costelow injury - it's all about the yoof
Two uncapped players in Wales' 34-man Six Nations squad as stalwarts return
The uncapped duo of Ospreys fly-half Dan Edwards and Scarlets wing Ellis Mee have been selected by Warren Gatland...
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@Machpants said in 2025 6Ns:
Wales Squad, no Anscombe despite Costelow injury - it's all about the yoof
Two uncapped players in Wales' 34-man Six Nations squad as stalwarts return
The uncapped duo of Ospreys fly-half Dan Edwards and Scarlets wing Ellis Mee have been selected by Warren Gatland...
Weird selections
One midget replaced by another midget
No Llewelyn, Winnett, Dyer, Jarrod Evans
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All about the yoof…. And Faletau 🤷
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ABI. France or Scotland please.
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England squad announced. Maro Itoje named as the new captain, replacing Jamie George. Borthwick will likely stick with most of the incumbents. Chessum will probably return to the blindside and at fullback, it looks like it will be between Freddie Steward and Elliot Daly.
Alex Mitchell being back should at least help, he's been impressive for Northampton since his return. Still, Ireland (in Dublin) and France (at Twickenham) in the first two rounds is a very challenging schedule. You'd expect the English to have plenty of motivation for the France game, after the 10-53 Twickenham demolition job by the French in 2023.
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Such confusion in that squad selection. I’m a fan of Dombrandt but England do not play his sort of game and Borthwick does not allow him the freedom to play his game. So what’s the point? Willis has been on fire for Sarries for two seasons now, ffs give him a chance. Steward has been playing well for Tigers but seems to have been found out at International level. He was again left floundering a few times during the AIs but with Furbank out I’m not sure what the answer is but the evidence is that it’s not Steward. T Curry is just not ready yet and imo is there purely because he’s on a hybrid contract. The starting and best 9 in the AIs, Spencer is not there but JvP who has been constantly found wanting is there? How does that work? I’m a fan of Chessum as a lock but I fear he will get picked at 6 and we will continue to “learn” the same old lessons.
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squad is ok, but i agree with Cato re Dombrandt. Willis has to play. Hate that Chessum has got better just because he hasn't played, he's too lightweight for a lock and not a good 6 IMO but our lineout is a mess because Martin is heavy and we don't have a jumping option in the back row otherwise.
Steward will have to start at 15 and Maus - please wash your mouth out for suggesting Daly is ever an option at full back ever again. Mitchell coming back should help Marcus at 10 and Finn Smith should be on the bench, he somehow got man of the match against Northampton last week and IMO he was less than average, he looks tired to me.
Our front row is poor or too young.
Overall yet another underwhelming group of players.
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Leaving aside for the moment that Chessum hasn't had much rugby, you're not happy with him because he's too lightweight and you're not keen on Martin because he's a heavy lump. You're difficult to please mate. There's about 6kgs between them apparently so not an awful lot, but I guess it is the way you do (or don't) throw that weight around that counts. However, I'd rather have Chessum, or Coles for that matter in the engine room than either of Ewels or Isiekwe..
Solving the non jumping back row option should be easy if Borthwick picks Ted Hill (which he won't) and Willis at 8 (which he won't). A back row of Hill at 6, Willis at 8 and either Earl or B Curry at 7 would offer a good balance imo.
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Steward will have to start at 15 and Maus - please wash your mouth out for suggesting Daly is ever an option at full back ever again.
Surely Daly's picked as a fullback-option, next to Steward? Who else could possibly fill that slot in the squad selected? Marcus Smith doesn’t strike me as a natural fullback and why would Borthwick move him now that he seems to have finally settled into the 10-role at Test level. Murley, Roebuck and Sleightholme are wingers and Freeman’s last game at fullback came over two years ago, in a Premiership game against Exeter. If Furbank is the template for the Borthwick counter-attack from 15, then Daly comes a lot closer to that than someone like Steward. But, considering Borthwick’s conservative tendencies, I still presume Steward will get first crack.
Again, I’m not saying that Daly would be my choice – he wouldn’t – but the Premiership isn’t exactly overflowing with options either. Joe Carpenter, George Barton, Rich Lane, Josh Hodge, Tom de Glanville, ... Talented players, for sure, but hardly screaming Test quality. Tyrone Green, if convinced to choose England, would’ve been a good option in my view, but maybe he’s still waiting for a call from Rassie.
With Furbank's injury, Steward's issues at Test level and the lack of clear candidates in the Premiership, Daly's inclusion sort of makes sense. But, what it really does, is show that the cupboard is rather bare when it comes to 15s.
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