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    Interesting sub plot in the otherwise meaningless yet entertaining 49ers Lions game today:

    Purdy came out injured near the end of the game and has an elbow injury to throwing shoulder - noting that 2 years ago he missed 6 months from elbow surgery to the same elbow after suffering a torn UCL.

    Purdy is eligible for a huge new contract this offseason but his play this season has been poor.

    I like Purdy as a dude and generally as a player but you cannot justify paying him elite $. This new injury could throw a cat amongst the pigeons.

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    @KiwiMurph fun game to watch!

    I would run through a wall for Dan Campbell. What a coach.

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    @KiwiMurph said in NFL 2024:

    Interesting sub plot in the otherwise meaningless yet entertaining 49ers Lions game today:

    Purdy came out injured near the end of the game and has an elbow injury to throwing shoulder - noting that 2 years ago he missed 6 months from elbow surgery to the same elbow after suffering a torn UCL.

    Purdy is eligible for a huge new contract this offseason but his play this season has been poor.

    I like Purdy as a dude and generally as a player but you cannot justify paying him elite $. This new injury could throw a cat amongst the pigeons.

    If you pay a guy max money you should expect him to be capable of carrying the offence. Not sure Brock can based on this season

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    Be interesting to see where the final AFC playoff spot goes. Broncos have the advantage, being win-and-your-in and the Chiefs likely to rest Mahomes and maybe more players.

    Dolphins need a Broncos loss and a win over the Jets (who specialise in pointless week 18 wins long after elimination from the playoff race).

    Bengals need both Broncos and Dolphins to lose and then a win over the Steelers. Toughest path, but would be an incredible recovery from 0-3.

    On the Purdy contract, he's never looked like a guy that you could sustain success while paying him top of the market money. If the 49ers were better this year I could have seen him taking tier 2 money (say 45m per year), along with a long deal and good guarantees, since he's earned so litte, but with the 49ers a bit of a rabble this year you wonder if he might be tempted to test free agency. I don't think there's really any better landing spots though.

    I'd compare him to Dak Prescott. A solid, reliable QB but not able to consistently take over a game in tough situations the way the truly elite QBs can. The cowboys have had some tough years and I think there will be more in the future because of the terrible deal they gave him.

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    @Cyclops said in NFL 2024:

    On the Purdy contract, he's never looked like a guy that you could sustain success while paying him top of the market money. If the 49ers were better this year I could have seen him taking tier 2 money (say 45m per year), along with a long deal and good guarantees, since he's earned so litte, but with the 49ers a bit of a rabble this year you wonder if he might be tempted to test free agency. I don't think there's really any better landing spots though.

    Purdy still has an extra year on his rookie deal left so he's not really in a position to test free agency.

    The news today is the elbow injury for Purdy is nothing long term.

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    Cracking game between Bengals and Steelers.

    Bengals get it done while Steelers throw away multiple chances with unforced drops towards the end.
    Huge errors on special teams by both sides. Neither looks like going deep into the playoffs.

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    @KiwiMurph said in NFL 2024:

    @Cyclops said in NFL 2024:

    On the Purdy contract, he's never looked like a guy that you could sustain success while paying him top of the market money. If the 49ers were better this year I could have seen him taking tier 2 money (say 45m per year), along with a long deal and good guarantees, since he's earned so litte, but with the 49ers a bit of a rabble this year you wonder if he might be tempted to test free agency. I don't think there's really any better landing spots though.

    Purdy still has an extra year on his rookie deal left so he's not really in a position to test free agency.

    The news today is the elbow injury for Purdy is nothing long term.

    Ah yeah, I'd forgotten the window to extend a rookie opens the year before they hit free agency.

    All the cards with the 49ers then. He's earned nothing, has had a few injuries and still fighting the perception that he's a system quarterback. Plus even if he lights up next season, they can still tag him at least once without the price going crazy, maybe even twice. An offer with decent guarantees but a law AV would be a really tough one for him to pass up. If he has Kirk Cousins' confidence he'll stare them down, but that can go very wrong.

    On the other hand, He'll have earned about 4m (maybe more, not sure if performance escalators apply for 7th rounders), and can probably earn a ton through endorsements with the crazy Mr Irrelevant storyline. He's not going to be that hard up any time, and despite this year, he's still in probably the best place he can realistically be to compete for rings. Maybe he'll take a left out of Brady's book and be happy with a lower offer (30-35m say) and hope that the extra flexibility to surround him with talent gets the 49ers across the line.

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    thank you to the Chiefs for playing their cleaning and admin staff on Sunday. Broncos overachieve massively to make post season football. Of course, we are off to Buffalo where Josh Allen wall put on a clinic, but considering what this year was supposed to be, we're playing with house money.

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    It's firing season in the NFL, and this didn't disappoint.

    The Bengals fired everyone who touched the defense (DC, DL and LB coach) also their OL coach
    Raiders fired their head coach
    Browns fired their OC
    Jags fired their HC
    Patriots were the first to jump firing their HC (terrible decision unless Kraft has someone lined up)
    Titans fired their GM
    Seahawks fired their OC

    A few who were perhaps a touch nervous kept their jobs in Miami and Indianapolis (though the Colts sacked their DC).

    You would think the Jags is the best job on that board?

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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    Saints, Jets and Bears all fired their HC in season, so they're all vacant too. Bears might be the most appealing of the lot. Jets roster is actually pretty decent apart from the lack of a QB but the ownership is beyond rancid which drags them down.

    Of the post season firings I'd agree that the jags are probably the most appealing.

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    Yeah one of the challenges for the Bears is the tough division with 3 other strong teams (in comparison to the Jags and the AFC South).

    In addition whilst more expensive Lawrence is mucu more of a known quality at QB than Caleb Williams who the jury is very much still out on.

    49ers are searching for a new defensive coordinator (perhaps Saleh will return if he doesn't get another head coaching gig).

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    Vikings-Rams game still planned for SoFi Stadium on Monday; contingency plan in place to move to State Farm Stadium

    Move may happen due to the LA fires.

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    It used to be Lamar Jackson who copped criticism for his playoff performance.

    Now it should be Justin Herbert.

    A much improved season for the Chargers but Herbert gets touted as an elite quarterback with no playoff performances to justify the hype.

    Meanwhile Lamar Jackson destroying the Steelers.

    Steelers are the ultimate treadmill team - never bad enough to draft high - never good enough to legitimately challenge in the playoffs.

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    @KiwiMurph Herbert and Tomlin got smoked. Again.

    I saw my first blocked goal for a touchdown! Crazy stuff

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    Herbert overthrew too often
    Too hard, too far, not good.

    Lamar by comparison though has it easy as a QB. Henry has made them.very fucking hard to defend. Lamar can dish, take the run when everyone goes to Henry. He barely has to throw.

    Lamar is surrounded by better players than Herbert and you can't ignore that.

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    First game was messy, but Stroud kept finding the play at the right time in a way Herbert wasn't able to

    2nd game the steelers were just outmatched.

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    @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

    Herbert overthrew too often
    Too hard, too far, not good.

    Lamar by comparison though has it easy as a QB. Henry has made them.very fucking hard to defend. Lamar can dish, take the run when everyone goes to Henry. He barely has to throw.

    Lamar is surrounded by better players than Herbert and you can't ignore that.

    Part of that is Lamar himself as a runner though. Being an amazing runner is part of his skillset as a QB.

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    @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

    Lamar is surrounded by better players than Herbert and you can't ignore that.

    Yep. But he threw very well - he's picking his run and his pass and his handoff so much better. He's undefendable at times.

    He is awesome to watch. And I have man-love for Henry (I have his jersey). What a Meast.

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    well, glad i got up early to watch that...

    Denver are just not good enough to live with Buffalo. We were too conservative as well, and our run game isn't really good enough for that. The first drive was awesome, and then we barely had the ball after that.

    The AFC is fucked. To even make the Superbowl you've got to beat at least a couple of Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, probably Joe Burrow as well. And it's not like the guys just below them in Herbert and Stroud are shit either.

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    Steelers fans have had enough of Mike Tomlin and the treadmill.

    Lots of damning calls like "we've become the Cowboys, all legacy no relevance"

    Ouch

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