Boxing Thread
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
Fight week here , and I feel more optimistic about fury now it’s here , just like what I’m seeing and hearing from him .A 3 month lockdown camp with no contact with anyone including his wife and kids is some commitment .
In other news david nyika fighting jai opetaia jan 8th , for the cruiserweight title, suspect this is too soon for David and Jai will be too much for him
This fight has rolled around by surprise ( for me ). Haven’t really been following it at all.
But work will be finished and ( hopefully ) Xmas chores all done so cannot wait for it all to kick off.
Any idea when it is on NZ time approximately ?
Oh, and I’m picking Usyk by decision.
Usyk on points is the safe bet but if we go back through history it’s amazing how often the rematch doesn’t resemble the first fight at all , I’ve got a feeling both fighters might throw caution to the wind a bit more and while that doesn’t necessarily mean a different result , a stoppage might be on the cards .
Haven’t seen the exact times yet but the Riyadh stuff is usually early , I’d be expecting roughly a 5am start and a 9 to 10 am main fight time in aus , so add a couple of hours to nz . Give or take an hour or two either way .
Usyk has Fury’s number.
Not to mention Fury and Wilder ( especially ) just aren’t the fighters they were after smashing each other over three brutal bouts.
I haven’t felt this confident on the fern since I successfully predicted Tua would knock out Cameron in the second round
To be fair , Usyk has everyones number , he is an exceptional boxer , best footwork from any heavyweight since Ali ,
he takes them into deep water with the pace he puts on the fight with his continous workrate and movement , they find themselves in a position where the tank is empty a lot earlier than they are accustomed to ,
But I do think what a lot of people are sleeping on , before Fury got caught on the chin in the ninth round , he was actually in front on the scorecards ,and was actually hurting him with some flush uppercuts , that is a rarity in a usyk fight .
And despite that 10-8 round , the scorecards were very close ,
But the thing that bothers me most about Fury , he seems to get hit Flush more than he once did
I put that down to the trilogy with Wilder. Same thing happened to Ali with Frazier AND Norton.
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I got to see only the last half of that Fury Usyk fight so missed Fury's better rounds but I was so impressed with Usyk's precision and ability to punch up and connect with Fury's distant head so often and for so long, would tire many (compared to Fury) shorter boxers, I'd imagine.
I thought Fury was KO'd on the ropes myself but he recovered well. Kind of fascinating to see a guy so big to be so nearly knocked out on his feet but his head not quite believing it, think one of them got him on his temple. Body shots didn't seem to phase him so much but if he loses that meat corset I wonder if his organs will be easier target. Hope he has, there was a lot of wobbling belly on those long and spindly legs.
Still, Usyk, such an intelligent fighter, I'm a fan. He looked so much smaller out there but never overawed (well from the second half that I saw). -
@Bovidae said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
In other news david nyika fighting jai opetaia jan 8th , for the cruiserweight title, suspect this is too soon for David and Jai will be too much for him
Nyika has stepped up to take this fight. As he says, it was too good an opportunity to turn down despite the risk.
Translated -the money is too good to knock back . 😀
I personally think a 3 week preparation is not enough for a tough opponent like jai , it could get ugly , I suspect jai will stop him , possibly early .
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For those with a spare 10 minutes
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Bovidae said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
In other news david nyika fighting jai opetaia jan 8th , for the cruiserweight title, suspect this is too soon for David and Jai will be too much for him
Nyika has stepped up to take this fight. As he says, it was too good an opportunity to turn down despite the risk.
Translated -the money is too good to knock back . 😀
I personally think a 3 week preparation is not enough for a tough opponent like jai , it could get ugly , I suspect jai will stop him , possibly early .
In fairness, he'll learn a lot more from this fight than facing 3-4 journeymen next year. I'm glad to see guys not protecting their zero.
Saudi has saved boxing in that regard it can't be denied.
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Bovidae said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
In other news david nyika fighting jai opetaia jan 8th , for the cruiserweight title, suspect this is too soon for David and Jai will be too much for him
Nyika has stepped up to take this fight. As he says, it was too good an opportunity to turn down despite the risk.
Translated -the money is too good to knock back . 😀
I personally think a 3 week preparation is not enough for a tough opponent like jai , it could get ugly , I suspect jai will stop him , possibly early .
In fairness, he'll learn a lot more from this fight than facing 3-4 journeymen next year. I'm glad to see guys not protecting their zero.
Saudi has saved boxing in that regard it can't be denied.
For sure , the Saudi money is the best thing to happen to boxing for a long time , great cards every few weeks , with so much money around , everyone is working together instead of protecting their own backyard
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@Bovidae said in Boxing Thread:
If you didn't read the article Nyika was already on the undercard, so was in training.
Different opponent , a late switch of opponent is always difficult when all your prep work and fight plan has been geared towards a different fighter .
But in fairness you could say the same for Jai .
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@Bovidae said in Boxing Thread:
If you didn't read the article Nyika was already on the undercard, so was in training.
Yes he was, but unlikely to have been preparing for this sort of jump in class and most likely would have been training for an orthodox fighter, which Opetaia isn't.
So yeah, I think he may give Opetaia a few problems but either get stopped late or lose on the cards, but he can only come out good from this win lose or draw.
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Coming in 20 pounds heavier than fight 1 ,and heavier than he has ever been , It’s fairly obvious fury is going to attempt to dominate usyk physically use his size advantage and attempt a beat down , and he may have his moments of success , if there is a chink in usyk s armour , there is plenty of footage of him looking uncomfortable being hit to the body over the years . It has to be part of the plan you would suspect.
The issue will be, if usyk is still standing in the middle rounds , it’s from there he usually picks up the pace of the fight and goes into overdrive, and fury being so heavy might be knackered by then .
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I’m going Fury
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@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
I’m going Fury
I’m going Usyk. Shall we have an avatar wager on it ?
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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
I’m going Usyk.
Ditto. I know he's shorter, weighs less, has less reach, is older, but... IMO he's a better boxer technically, moves better and he's fitter.
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@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
I’m going Fury
Fury talks a good fight, and he's got the body shots.
But I'm leaning towards Usyk, seems to have more motivation. -
I’m finding it difficult to imagine if it goes the distance anything but a usyk victory,
But with fury he appears very motivated and if we go through his history his best performances have been when his back is to the wall , coming in so heavy intrigues me what his plan is,, I suspect he is going to fight roughhouse ,lean all over him ,throw caution to the wind and attempt to stop usyk , but it could backfire badly if he can’t catch him , gets sloppy and walks into usyk s left hand . A stoppage either way is possible for me .
But if it goes the distance, usyk .
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Keep an eye out for 19 year old heavyweight, Moses Itauma.
Could be the future of the division
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
Keep an eye out for 19 year old heavyweight, Moses Itauma.
Could be the future of the division
Most understated post ever.
Huge early knockout. McKean is no chump either, 22-1 record.
Will definitely watch this young fellas progress!
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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
Keep an eye out for 19 year old heavyweight, Moses Itauma.
Could be the future of the division
Most understated post ever.
Huge early knockout. McKean is no chump either, 22-1 record.
Will definitely watch this young fellas progress!
Yeah looks a super young talent , beautiful mover with power
