Legs of steel
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Free weight squats could be added, as well as some deadies, but they are not developers of functional strength ie. how many deadies do you do on the field? <br />
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Functional strength is most important, maybe only some deadies for the tight 5?<br />
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and this 'I can bench press such and such a weight' is codswallop. You don't do many benches on the fiels ie. not a functional strength movement. -
blackdragon - functional strength?? How many squats do you do on the field... <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' /> <br />
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overall body strength (overall functional strength perhaps), can't go past the big three, deadlifts, squats, bench press. Turf the rest out, sub shoulder press for bench a few times, and there you have the worlds most basic weights programme, that will work!! -
Thank you bartman,<br />
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functional strength? That's the reason you don't have to waste your time doing bicep curls or other isolation exercises. Squats and deadlifts are compound exercises that work multiple muscle groups that you will use during a game of rugby.<br />
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it's no use having strong legs if your lower back folds the first time you try to use them. -
Hindu's, my lads. Plenty of them. Try it mate. I did squats and deadies for 6 years, and it improved my strength tremendously - ie. 10 reps with 200kg in the deadlift, and 140kg for 8 reps in the squat.<br />
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But I bet you dollars to dougnuts, if you can squat 100's of pounds, you can only do 30-40 Hindu's. <br />
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Hindu's are way better than squats and deads for developing overall flexibility, strength, endurance, and cardio. [b]Try it first[/b] bro. I've done both, and the results are amazing! -
those weights are made up BD?? only squatting 140, but 200 on DL, just does not compute in my experience of weight training, have found that most would be able to squat more (amateur played dunno about pros), than dead lift.<br />
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I think I carcked 220 for DL, and 260 odd for squats, and found that sort of ratio the norm, biys being able to squat more (legs) then DL, legs and back.<br />
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but agree, try something before you knock it, but also, use the proven methods first, before trying the alternates - in my opinion anyway! -
Normally depends on what i do first, i'm pretty even at the moment.<br />
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BD, it's just the amount of time you seem to have to spend doing it that would put me off. You could do a lot of other training in the time you were doing hindu squats. -
Tell me about it. Deadlifts, squats and then lunges. If i put the effort in i struggle to walk the next day. It knocks a bit off my squat but it gets it all done. Workout has 4 upper body exercises as well, and some abs, don't know if it's too long, but it seems to work. Seems better than when i used to split stuff.
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I've always had a strong lower back. My biomechanics are suited to deadies as I am tall, so the squat weight is lower.<br />
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Not a normal ratio, thats why I did the Hindu's to up my power, so now the ratio is pretty good.<br />
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I must congratulate Bartman, we don't often see eye to eye, but these are pretty good poundages there Barty! I'm impressed! <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' /> <br />
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Also, I injured my back for a while in the scrum, so I placed more emphasis on the Hindu's. They place less stress on your joints. -
Ok experts so what is the best workout routine for weight room time for high school kids. or can someone point me to some website where i can share this info with them.
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Pushups<br />
Chins<br />
Hindus<br />
Sprints<br />
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But remember to stretch. Heaps of rugby players become 'stiff' when they train too much, making them more injury prone because they don't stretch. -
[quote name='\"blackdragon\"'][b]Hindu squats[/b] are the perfect choice to develop power and endurance in the thighs.<br />
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Just assume a standing position, feet shoulder width apart, feet pointing slightly outward.<br />
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Squat down below parallel, then come back up, but don't lock out. Keep the movement continuous.<br />
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Breath out on the way down, and in on the way up. Keep the back straight.<br />
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As you squat down, your arms should be straight, moved to your sides and behind you, then be brought straight out in front of you on the way back up.<br />
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Do them in sets of 50, 2-3 minutes rest between each set, for a total of 500 reps, every day. That's what I did. After 3 months my legs were tree trunks - an extra 8kg of muscle!<br />
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This exercise improves your aerobic and anaerobic capacity.<br />
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80 minutes of rugby becomes a breeze![/quote]<br />
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after reading that does anyone seriously believe that bd isn't a wind up merchant? -
I probably should have spotted it. :roll: <br />
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I was caught big time there. I actually considered trying it out for all of .2 seconds.... <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> -
knowing dick squat about hindu squats it may be true, i dont know. but bd is taking the piss there.<br />
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dont worry ed, i wont spread it round wales, the sheep will still love you <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> -
yeah, twas the 8kg of muscle that pushed it. still, can't spend half my life doing fookin squats, can i?
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all it does it increase chances of injury, by extending your knee cap past some point or other, and thus reducing stability. So the extra 'gain' you get from going past 90, is not worth the exta chance of injury that you may sustain from going to deep...