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  • BartManB Offline
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    BartMan
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    those weights are made up BD?? only squatting 140, but 200 on DL, just does not compute in my experience of weight training, have found that most would be able to squat more (amateur played dunno about pros), than dead lift.<br />
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    I think I carcked 220 for DL, and 260 odd for squats, and found that sort of ratio the norm, biys being able to squat more (legs) then DL, legs and back.<br />
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    but agree, try something before you knock it, but also, use the proven methods first, before trying the alternates - in my opinion anyway!

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    When I was doing Deads I was lifting about 30kg more in my DL than I could in a squat<br />
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    Although I think that just means I can squat fuckall :?

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    different for different people i s'pose, but I ahve never noted it that way around!!

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    ed_welshman
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    Normally depends on what i do first, i'm pretty even at the moment.<br />
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    BD, it's just the amount of time you seem to have to spend doing it that would put me off. You could do a lot of other training in the time you were doing hindu squats.

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    do them on different days - can never go heavy on both on the same day - kill yourselof!!

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    ed_welshman
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    Tell me about it. Deadlifts, squats and then lunges. If i put the effort in i struggle to walk the next day. It knocks a bit off my squat but it gets it all done. Workout has 4 upper body exercises as well, and some abs, don't know if it's too long, but it seems to work. Seems better than when i used to split stuff.

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    blackdragon
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    I've always had a strong lower back. My biomechanics are suited to deadies as I am tall, so the squat weight is lower.<br />
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    Not a normal ratio, thats why I did the Hindu's to up my power, so now the ratio is pretty good.<br />
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    I must congratulate Bartman, we don't often see eye to eye, but these are pretty good poundages there Barty! I'm impressed! <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' /> <br />
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    Also, I injured my back for a while in the scrum, so I placed more emphasis on the Hindu's. They place less stress on your joints.

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    colt_hurricane
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    Ok experts so what is the best workout routine for weight room time for high school kids. or can someone point me to some website where i can share this info with them.

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    blackdragon
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    Pushups<br />
    Chins<br />
    Hindus<br />
    Sprints<br />
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    But remember to stretch. Heaps of rugby players become 'stiff' when they train too much, making them more injury prone because they don't stretch.

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    taffyjoe
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    [quote name='\"blackdragon\"'][b]Hindu squats[/b] are the perfect choice to develop power and endurance in the thighs.<br />
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    Just assume a standing position, feet shoulder width apart, feet pointing slightly outward.<br />
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    Squat down below parallel, then come back up, but don't lock out. Keep the movement continuous.<br />
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    Breath out on the way down, and in on the way up. Keep the back straight.<br />
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    As you squat down, your arms should be straight, moved to your sides and behind you, then be brought straight out in front of you on the way back up.<br />
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    Do them in sets of 50, 2-3 minutes rest between each set, for a total of 500 reps, every day. That's what I did. After 3 months my legs were tree trunks - an extra 8kg of muscle!<br />
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    This exercise improves your aerobic and anaerobic capacity.<br />
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    80 minutes of rugby becomes a breeze![/quote]<br />
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    after reading that does anyone seriously believe that bd isn't a wind up merchant?

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    ed_welshman
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    I probably should have spotted it. :roll: <br />
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    I was caught big time there. I actually considered trying it out for all of .2 seconds.... <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />

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    #23

    I'm skeptical about the 8kg of muscle but some martial arts training suggest Hindu squats for a similar rep range and often a lot more.

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    taffyjoe
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    knowing dick squat about hindu squats it may be true, i dont know. but bd is taking the piss there.<br />
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    dont worry ed, i wont spread it round wales, the sheep will still love you <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />

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    ed_welshman
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    yeah, twas the 8kg of muscle that pushed it. still, can't spend half my life doing fookin squats, can i?

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    Pfft - bringing your knee joint lower than 90 degrees generally provides no further benefit than getting to 90 - ask any weights dude when squats are happening.

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    all it does it increase chances of injury, by extending your knee cap past some point or other, and thus reducing stability.  So the extra 'gain' you get from going past 90, is not worth the exta chance of injury that you may sustain from going to deep...

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    Thomond78
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    Re-reading the shite from BD, the idea does come to mind that any benefit he might have seen would have been considerably bettered by spending the same amount of time on an ergometer...  <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />

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    davidav
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    Sprints and bodyweight squats do it for me.<br />
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    I used to be heavily into lifting--at one point I was squatting 410 pounds for sets of 8.<br />
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    These days the spine has had enough of heavy weights.<br />
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    But sprinting is amazingly good at building leg strength, and at least as hard as a heavy squatting session if done properly.

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    blackdragon
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    [quote name='davidav']<br />
    Sprints and [b]bodyweight squats[/b] do it for me.<br />
    <br />
    I used to be heavily into lifting--at one point I was squatting 410 pounds for sets of 8.<br />
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    These days the spine has had enough of heavy weights.<br />
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    But sprinting is amazingly good at building leg strength, and at least as hard as a heavy squatting session if done properly.<br />
    [/quote]<br />
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    <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> ahhhhhhhhhh..... the pleasure of knowing I'm sometimes right. Come on lads, give it a crack, eh?

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    [quote name='blackdragon']<br />
    <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> ahhhhhhhhhh..... the pleasure of knowing I'm sometimes right. Come on lads, give it a crack, eh?<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    Read his post again, he does your exercise as his back is stuffed.

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