The Silver Fern

I know last week skewed the numbers, but it’s pretty wild that Oz have a -83 points differential over 4 games

Since forever when we made a line break, my immediate thought was “we’re on here!”

These days the first thing I think is “fuck, we’re gonna get isolated and turn it over”

How did this happen?

@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:

It was good to see the ABs having a real go at winning turnovers at the rucks, and getting a few too. We haven't done that enough the last few years.

And Vaa’i contesting Bok lineouts was awesome

Is there any update on Sami? With Taylor in this form, it'd be pretty sweet to bring Sami on for the last 25mins!

@Nepia said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks II:

@voodoo said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks II:

I just can't fathom how that performance got him into the MOTM conversation.

A reflection of the other performances in the team ...?

I guess putting a fat red line through the whole backline shrinks the field...

@antipodean said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks II:

@voodoo said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks II:

@booboo said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks II:

@voodoo said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks II:

Surprised to see a bunch of people Cane. I thought he was useless today. Missed tackles, gave away an idiotic penalty, guilty of ruck watching, zero link play and did he even attempt a jackal?

He’s a terrible 7 these days

Cane? For serious?

I’ve been given some grief for this take. So I went full anti-Fern and rewatched the game just now

I’m genuinely baffled by the thought that anyone thinks Cane played well - he didn’t carry at all ,

Five times actually.

he had one decent/ dubious turnover,

So a turnover on the tryline.

zero dominant tackles

LOL

He carried 5 times for 6m

Yes the turnover was a good one

Can you point me to these dominant tackles rather than a childish "lol"?

I'm not trying to be a dick here - I went back to rewatch his game last night because a bunch of people here said he played well. I tracked just Cane, watched his every engagement.

I genuinely cannot see what you saw.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Cane. Seems like a good guy. I was apoplectic when we dropped him for the SF in 2019. But I think he's a shadow of that player now. Yes he still has a hard shoulder. But that's really it. He doesn't carry (EFFECTIVELY), he doesn't link, he barely gets turnovers, and he has given away a number of poor penalties that the old Cane wouldn't have done.

I'm not even a Paps guy, I don't have an alternative. Heck, I'm not even saying we should drop him. I just can't fathom how that performance got him into the MOTM conversation.

@booboo said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks II:

@voodoo said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks II:

Surprised to see a bunch of people Cane. I thought he was useless today. Missed tackles, gave away an idiotic penalty, guilty of ruck watching, zero link play and did he even attempt a jackal?

He’s a terrible 7 these days

Cane? For serious?

I’ve been given some grief for this take. So I went full anti-Fern and rewatched the game just now

I’m genuinely baffled by the thought that anyone thinks Cane played well - he didn’t carry at all , he had one decent/ dubious turnover, zero dominant tackles - I really don’t know what value he added

If that’s the standard for an AB 7 today, then we can stop debating the merits of the coach or anyone else out there

@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks II:

@voodoo said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks II:

Surprised to see a bunch of people Cane. I thought he was useless today. Missed tackles, gave away an idiotic penalty, guilty of ruck watching, zero link play and did he even attempt a jackal?

He’s a terrible 7 these days

Spot the bloke who has never played

Um ok bro

I’ll have to watch him again. The second half I thought he was woeful, an absolute negative

But I’ll give it another go!

its pretty wild how we’ve become the worst closing team in recent history. I actually burst out laughing when Reece fell asleep at the end. Just comical stuff

I went Cody, Sititi and Vaa’i

Surprised to see a bunch of people Cane. I thought he was useless today. Missed tackles, gave away an idiotic penalty, guilty of ruck watching, zero link play and did he even attempt a jackal?

He’s a terrible 7 these days

@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

I really don’t understand what the point of these interviews are

This thread is why we need to bring back tours. Idiots like us need something to distract us in between tests so we don’t end up arguing endlessly about the same bloke and his tackle stats and his perfect doppelgänger

Marc Hinton logic - "BB dropped for shit kicking and option-taking - pretty keen to see him get a run at 10 though eh"

@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

Well I think Razor has done well.
And we haven't even got our best player on the pitch.
I haven't wanted to win an upcoming game so much as this one for a long time

Who is this best player?

Havili

@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@voodoo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:

Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).

Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!

Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.

They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime

That's awesome.

They thought the atmosphere at Ellis Park was amazing, just crazy getting in and out. They walk okay, but would have preferred it if the bus could have got them a little closer!!

If they're planning on being at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday best you warn them that vehicles can't get too close there either. But it is not super far from basically any drop-off point, and pretty flat.

Glad they enjoyed the Ellis Park atmosphere. It can be something special when heaving.
Cape Town likewise will be good for different reasons. Likely they will see a lot of AB jerseys there..!

They are on a NZ based bus tour. So I would imagine the walk to the ground is pretty standard, like any major sporting ground

Assume their tour will take them to Caprice at Camps Bay the day after the test for a long recovery / celebration session?

A wee tour into the wine country I'd imagine

Possibly more appropriate

Stellenbosch and Franschhoek are wicked - so many good wines and such beautiful scenery

@Brandon said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

Just an apology from SA Rugby over the timing issue with flyover etc.
Best wishes
B

I mean…very generous…but also - it’s also a bit embarrassing to think that some of us kiwis are genuinely upset about this - its a fucking A380, it’s kinda hard to time and manoeuvre perfectly!

All seems a bit precious to me

@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:

Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).

Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!

Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.

They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime

That's awesome.

They thought the atmosphere at Ellis Park was amazing, just crazy getting in and out. They walk okay, but would have preferred it if the bus could have got them a little closer!!

If they're planning on being at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday best you warn them that vehicles can't get too close there either. But it is not super far from basically any drop-off point, and pretty flat.

Glad they enjoyed the Ellis Park atmosphere. It can be something special when heaving.
Cape Town likewise will be good for different reasons. Likely they will see a lot of AB jerseys there..!

They are on a NZ based bus tour. So I would imagine the walk to the ground is pretty standard, like any major sporting ground

Assume their tour will take them to Caprice at Camps Bay the day after the test for a long recovery / celebration session?