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  • NTAN Offline
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    NTA
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    #61

    <p>Not always - as I said earlier: certain protocols mean desks are wired in a particular way for some of our staff. They cannot hotdesk.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>For the same reasons, Nepia may need allocated filing space for hard copy work. While we like to <em>say</em> that everything can go electronic, in some cases the savings for hotdesk won't pay for the costs of implementing scan/OCR and related systems. Sometimes there are legislative reasons as well.</p>

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  • NepiaN Online
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    Nepia
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    #62

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="604179" data-time="1470697561">
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    <p><strong>The process changes the fundamental nature of work. </strong>Things get done differently. You don't do the same things that happen each day and that in itself is the<strong> positive outcome to the change</strong>.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Everyone always know better before change.....</p>
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    <p>You should get a job as a management consultant. ;)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I actually think if you spent a day shadowing me you'd instantly realise your management speak is not applicable.</p>

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    #63

    <p>Don't get me wrong, I don't think the fit is for everyone. I just find that they disappear into obscurity if it works for the most.</p>

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  • NepiaN Online
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    Nepia
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    #64

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="604192" data-time="1470699649">
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    <p>Don't get me wrong, I don't think the fit is for <strong>everyone</strong>. I just find that they disappear into obscurity if it works for the most.</p>
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    <p>It's not a personal thing, it's the role, it can't be done from a hot desk. My last job would have worked perfectly. Hot desking would only work for a small fraction of my office due to the nature of our work (education).</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>You're the first hot desk zealot I've come across.  ;)</p>

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    #65

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="604165" data-time="1470696402">
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    <p>Easy. A hotseat desk set up would be terrible for me. Out of necessity I have papers, post it notes, files and folders etc and having to get them out and put them all away again each day would be idiotic and unproductive. There are some offices it will just never work in. </p>
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    <p>I'm not saying it's for everyone.  But I think if your management decides it is for you, but your argument is about post it's, files, folders etc, then mgmt view is that these things shouldn't be required for your role.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The majority of the world is resistant to change, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Fish heads became fish heads, because the view was that they knew the best about what they were doing.</p>

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  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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    Baron Silas Greenback
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    #66

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="604192" data-time="1470699649">
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    <p>Don't get me wrong, I don't think the fit is for everyone. I just find that they disappear into obscurity if it works for the most.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>How do they know if it works for most? Because there are no complaints? Staff morale is an amorphous thing that usually declines in increments until there is a tipping point. Of course people are not going to quit and say the reason is the new arrangement, they will just generally feel disconnected and unhappy at work and one day just look at seek and apply for another job. When they resign they wont burn bridges over some management inspired office arrangement.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If you think people are happy if they dont complain, you dont understand work place power dynamics.. and the ability of some people to be 2 faced suck ups... until they leave for 'other opportunities to grow'</p>

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  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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    Baron Silas Greenback
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    #67

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="604198" data-time="1470700286">
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Fish heads became fish heads, because the view was that they knew the best about what they were doing.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Management .. like most things in the workplace is an exercise in selfishness not competence. They use these office arrangements to cut costs and look progressive.. why? So they look good. Nothing wrong with that in  business sense of course... as lomg as they are smart enough to actually think through consequences that are not obvious.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Some of the hot desk solutions IMO look better than the open plan mess I have worked in in the distant  past. </p>

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  • NepiaN Online
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    Nepia
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    #68

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="604198" data-time="1470700286">
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    <p>I'm not saying it's for everyone.  But I think if your management decides it is for you, but your argument is about post it's, files, folders etc, then mgmt view is that these things shouldn't be required for your role.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The majority of the world is resistant to change, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Fish heads became fish heads, because the view was that they knew the best about what they were doing.</p>
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    <p>Read above my response to Hooroo. It wont work for my role, and as idiotic as my management can be they know this something that wouldn't work in practice. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm not in the least resistant to change - when it's justified and will help improve the situation. Change for change's sake and change that would make work more difficult is simply silly.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>* Don't get hung up on the post it notes, the main files and folders (and posters) are policy, procedures, accreditation documents/frameworks, legislation etc, not to mention my two giant monitors (that the fisheads wouldn't pony up for hot desks on any given sunday, too many accountants. ;))</p>

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    Hooroo
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    #69

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="604204" data-time="1470700787">
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    <p>How do they know if it works for most?</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>In finance, for the situation I was talking about (Not hot desks) we saw greater accuracy and deadline maintenance (Brought forward and met with) The other team in the other situation remained static for want of a better term.</p>

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  • G Offline
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    Godder
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    #70

    People tend to leave management and cultures rather than jobs, so if turnover increases with the fundamental job remaining the same, it's a good indicator of the problem.

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  • JCJ Offline
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    #71

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="604085" data-time="1470655309">
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    <p>I'd be quite happy with an Inactivity Based Workspace. Something with a TV and a fridge full of decent food and drink would be nice.</p>
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    <p>Funny you should mention that, because I've got an Inactivity Based Workspace. This is where I do all the fuck-all in my <strike>workplace</strike> house. I sometimes have to work for several hours at a time on Call of Duty.</p>

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    Hooroo
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    #72

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JC" data-cid="605890" data-time="1471386475">
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    <p>Funny you should mention that, because I've got an Inactivity Based Workspace. This is where I do all the fuck-all in my <strike>workplace</strike> house. <strong>I sometimes have to work for several hours at a time on Call of Duty</strong>.</p>
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    <p>That's a funny metaphor for porn</p>

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  • G Offline
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    Godder
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    #73

    To be fair, it ain't going to watch itself...

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  • NTAN Offline
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    NTA
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    #74

    <p>I just spent three days working from home (usually only Tuesdays) and it was fucking awesome. Head to the gym when I want. Eat when I want. Wear whatever clothes I want. Less fuckwits. Better internet.</p>

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    mariner4life
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    #75

    <p>Offices are awesome, because i spend every morning watching the olympics on the net, not working. try doing that in your shared zone.</p>

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    #76

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="606236" data-time="1471476285">
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    <p>Offices are awesome, because i spend every morning watching the olympics on the net, not working. try doing that in your shared zone.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>me too :)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>+1 for offices</p>

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