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Harbour 45 - Auckland 21 from QBE Stadium this arvo

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For who doesn't follow the <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/index.php/topic/41822-2016-mitre10-cup/'>Magpies</a> thread, here is the 2016 Hawke's Bay Magpies Mitre 10 Cup squad:
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<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Ash DIXON</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Brendon EDMONDS (injured)</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Tolu FAHAMOKIOA</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Mason KEAN</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Jason LONG</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Ben MAY</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Ricky RICCITELLI</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Jorian TANGAERE</div>
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<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Mark ABBOTT</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Michael ALLARDICE (injured)</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Geoff CRIDGE</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Ross FILIPO*</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Brodie RETALLICK</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Sanaila WAQA (injured)</div>
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<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Trent BOSWELL-WAKEFIELD</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Gareth EVANS (injured)</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Ben HAMELINK*</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Tony LAMBORN</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Marino MIKAELE TU'U*</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Hugh RENTON*</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Fa'alemiga SELESELE*</div>
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<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Inside Backs</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Chris EATON</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Tiaan FALCON*</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Brad WEBER*</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Ihaia WEST</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Ellery WILSON</div>
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<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Midfield Backs</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Robbie FRUEAN</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Matt GARLAND*</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Jonah LOWE</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Lewis MARSHALL</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Billy ROPIHA</div>
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<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Outside Backs</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Shannan CHASE</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Israel DAGG</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Mason EMERSON</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Sam MCNICOL*</div>
<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Ryan TONGIA</div>
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<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">* Magpies debutants</div>
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<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.sporty.co.nz/magpies/newsarticle/37852" title="External link">http://www.sporty.co...wsarticle/37852</a></div>
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<div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Background info:</div>
<ul><li>out for the season due to injury: Brendon Edmonds, Michael Allardice, Sanaila Waqa and Gareth Evans</li>
<li>won't play due to AB duties: Brodie Retallick & Israel Dagg</li>
<li>from our 2015 squad, the following players have left: Brendon O'Connor, Tom Stanley, Zac Guildford, Andrew Horrell, Richard Buckman, Tyrone Elkington-MacDonald, Ben Franks</li>
</ul>Despite the arrival of Brad Weber and Sam McNicol (and May & Filipo), this is a weaker team than last year's. The Magpies lose a gigantic amount of experience without - at least - eight of last year's Super Rugby players (not counting Franks). Whether they will be able to stay in the Premiership after this season, will depend a lot on whether young players like Mikaele-Tu'u, Emerson and Lowe as well as the added club rugby players can step up.

Chris B.

Mako$ team is apparently announced - sans Zac Guildford.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/82977063/tasman-Mako$-part-ways-with-winger-zac-guildford'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/82977063/tasman-Mako$-part-ways-with-winger-zac-guildford</a>

Stargazer

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="604229" data-time="1470703011">
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Mako$ team is apparently announced - sans Zac Guildford.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/82977063/tasman-Mako$-part-ways-with-winger-zac-guildford'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/82977063/tasman-Mako$-part-ways-with-winger-zac-guildford</a>
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Team naming video: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href=''></a>

Nepia

Hopefully the Magpies can throw him a bone - we need an experienced back.

Chris B.

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="604232" data-time="1470703626">
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Team naming video: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href=''></a>
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Yeah - I just watched it.
 
As expected, Quentin MacDonald and Joe Wheeler are gone. Good props and loosies, hooker and lock may be problematic.
 
Backs look pretty good.

Chris B.

The Ta$man Mako$ 2016 squad: Alex Ainley, Marty Banks, Finlay Christie, Shane Christie, Kieron Fonotia, Vernon Fredericks, Shannon Frizell, Ross Geldenhuys, Billy Guyton, Siosiua Halanukonuka, Kane Hames, David Havili, Tom Hill, Mitchell Hunt, Trael Joass, Richard Kingi, Tevita Koloamatangi, Viliami Lolohea, Jeff Lepa, James Lowe, Jesse MacDonald, Andrew Makalio, Alex Nankivell, Tim O'Malley, Tim Perry, Blair Prinsep, Peter Samu, Liam Squire, Quinten Strange, Josh Tafili, Tima Faingaanuku, Jesse Pitman.

Stargazer

2016 CANTERBURY MITRE 10 CUP SQUAD:
 
Atalifo, Lee Roy - Prop
Barrett, Jordie - Second five-eighth 
Barrett, Scott - Lock
Bird, Dominic - Lock
Bridge, George - Outside back
Brown, Jed - Loose forward
Crockett, Wyatt - Prop
Crotty, Ryan - Midfield back
Dalzell, Hamish - Lock
Drummond, Mitchell - Halfback
Dunshea, Mitchell - Lock
Earle, Nathan - Wing
Enari, Ere - Halfback
Finau, Inga - Second five-eighth 
Franks, Owen - Prop
Funnell, Ben - Hooker
Goodhue, Jack - Centre
Harmon, Billy - Loose forward
Hodgman, Alex - Prop
Jager , Oliver - Prop
Keresoma, Milford - Wing
Lienert- Brown, Daniel - Prop
McDuling, David - Lock
McNicholl, Johnny - Outside back
Mo'unga, Richie - First five-eighth
Moody, Joe - Prop
Prinsep, Reed - Loose forward
Read, Kieran - Number 8
Romano, Luke - Lock
Sanders, Tom - Loose forward
Stratton, Jack - Halfback
Suckling, Marshall - Outside back
Taylor, Codie - Hooker
Thompson, Rob - Second five-eighth 
Todd, Matt - Loose forward
Tokolahi, Siate - Prop
Vella, Nathan - Hooker
Volavola, Ben - First five-eighth
Waqanibau, Poasa - Outside back
Whitelock, Luke - Loose forward
Whitelock, Sam - Lock
 Injured â€“ out for season
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://canterburyrugby.co.nz/news/304-2016-canterbury-mitre-10-cup-squad-announced'>http://canterburyrugby.co.nz/news/304-2016-canterbury-mitre-10-cup-squad-announced</a>

Stargazer

Interesting comments about the tackle and breakdown laws that will be trialled this season in this article about the preseason game between Otago and Canterbury: 

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 One thing, though, that came clear from this game was that the new trial laws around the breakdown are turning the game closer to the 13-man game. 
 The great thing about rugby is it is a contest for possession in the whole game. 
 But under the new trial laws, which negate much of the effectiveness of the tackler in the breakdown, teams can hang on to the ball with relative ease, roll down the field and then just wait for the break to come. 
 There were periods in this game where teams just went phase after phase slowly creeping up the field. 
 Teams on defence were regularly committing no-one to the ruck, while the attacking team also only had one or two men guarding the ball as it went to the next phase. 
 ... 
 Brown said the trial laws around the breakdown were going to be interesting. 
 "They are going to lean towards the advantage of the attack a wee bit but youâ€™ve still got to be good enough to get across the attack line, accurate with your ball carries, accurate with your work around the ruck. And on defence youâ€™ve got to show some real patience and back your systems."
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 <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/otago/effect-trial-laws-clear-match'>https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/otago/effect-trial-laws-clear-match</a>

Chris B.

Top team for the Mako$ will probably look something like:
 
Kane Hames
Andrew Makalio
Sia Halanukonuka
Alex Ainley
Jeff Lepa
Pete Samu
Shane Christie
Vern Fredericks/Liam Squire
 
Billy Guyton
Marty Banks
James Lowe
David Havili
Kieron Fonotia
Viliame Lolohea
Mitchell Hunt
 
Reserves: Tim Perry, Jesse MacDonald, Ross Geldenhuys, Shannon Frizzell, Tevita Koloamatangi, Richard Kingi, Trael Joass, Josh Tafili
 
Others: Tom Hill, Blair Princep, Quentin Strange, Finlay Christie, Tim O'Malley, Alex Nankivell, Tima Faingaanuku, Jesse Pitman
 
We've probably got the best prop rotation in the comp. at least in terms of who we'll be able to use - hopefully we'll have Hames and the others will be fit.
 
Makalio is apparently a good Auckland club player coming via Wairarapa Bush. He'll need to be good at hooker, because I've never seen much from Quentin's little bro Jesse to suggest he's going to be the business. 
 
Ainley probably paired with Lepa, who was in the squad last year. Frizzell is a lock/blindside and Strange a lock from the maligned U20s tight five - looks a bit short to me.
 
Hope we get a bit of use out of Squire, otherwise Fredericks has been around the squad for several years and Koloamatangi - well, it's only the Mako$, so he's allowed to play 6, 7 or 8.
 
Halfbacks: Guyton, Kingi is a former Wallaby who also plays wing/fullback, and Christie a signing from ChCh club rugby.
 
Banks and Hunt cover first five - O'Malley is a journeyman from North Otago via BoP. I think Pitman can play there as well - and fullback. He looks a bit of a Robbie Malneek - though I've only briefly seen him playing for the Ta$man sevens team.
 
Crusaders' midfield - Joass and Nankivell both played a few games last year and looked promising without setting the world on fire. Hopefully better for the experience.
 
Lowe and Lolohea should be good on the wings, with Tafili looking a good "robust" player (ex-leaguie) and Faingaanuku an ex-schoolboy star from Nelson College (he and his brother look like Nelson's answer to the Umaga-Jensens - but, probably better). :)
 
Here's Tafili's highlights reel - not sure about his taste in music, but the fends at 3.54 are pretty amusing - "Call that a midfield"? He doesn't seem to like those stripey guys fullstop.

Tim

The ARFU report on the Auckland/Harbour preseason match claimed that Auckland really struggled with the new ruck laws.

ACT Crusader

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2016 CANTERBURY MITRE 10 CUP SQUAD:
 
Atalifo, Lee Roy - Prop
Barrett, Jordie - Second five-eighth 
Barrett, Scott - Lock
Bird, Dominic - Lock
Bridge, George - Outside back
Brown, Jed - Loose forward
<strike>Crockett, Wyatt - Prop</strike>
<strike>Crotty, Ryan - Midfield back</strike>
Dalzell, Hamish - Lock
Drummond, Mitchell - Halfback
<strike>Dunshea, Mitchell - Lock</strike>
Earle, Nathan - Wing
Enari, Ere - Halfback
Finau, Inga - Second five-eighth 
<strike>Franks, Owen - Prop</strike>
Funnell, Ben - Hooker
Goodhue, Jack - Centre
Harmon, Billy - Loose forward
Hodgman, Alex - Prop
Jager , Oliver - Prop
Keresoma, Milford - Wing
Lienert- Brown, Daniel - Prop
McDuling, David - Lock
McNicholl, Johnny - Outside back
Mo'unga, Richie - First five-eighth
<strike>Moody, Joe - Prop</strike>
Prinsep, Reed - Loose forward
<strike>Read, Kieran - Number 8</strike>
<strike>Romano, Luke - Lock</strike>
Sanders, Tom - Loose forward
Stratton, Jack - Halfback
Suckling, Marshall - Outside back
<strike>Taylor, Codie - Hooker</strike>
Thompson, Rob - Second five-eighth 
Todd, Matt - Loose forward
Tokolahi, Siate - Prop
Vella, Nathan - Hooker
Volavola, Ben - First five-eighth
Waqanibau, Poasa - Outside back
Whitelock, Luke - Loose forward
<strike>Whitelock, Sam - Lock</strike>
 Injured â€“ out for season
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://canterburyrugby.co.nz/news/304-2016-canterbury-mitre-10-cup-squad-announced'>http://canterburyrugby.co.nz/news/304-2016-canterbury-mitre-10-cup-squad-announced</a>
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Good squad, but 9 out for AB duties or injury. No full-back with any real experience is a concern, Probably play Volavola there. It will be interesting to see what they do with Jordie. He's a massive talent, but still only 19 and we have Thompson who is a class 2nd 5 at NPC level.
 
Possible XV
 
1. Leinart-Brown
2. Funnell
3. Tokalahi
4. Bird
5. Barrett
6. Sanders
7. Todd
8. Whitelock
9. Drummond
10. Mo'unga
11. McNicholl
12. Thompson
13. Goodhue
14. Keresoma
15. Volavola

SammyC

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Good squad, but 9 out for AB duties or injury. No full-back with any real experience is a concern, Probably play Volavola there. It will be interesting to see what they do with Jordie. He's a massive talent, but still only 19 and we have Thompson who is a class 2nd 5 at NPC level.
 
Possible XV
 
1. Leinart-Brown
2. Funnell
3. Tokalahi
4. Bird
5. Barrett
6. Sanders
7. Todd
8. Whitelock
9. Drummond
10. Mo'unga
11. McNicholl
12. Thompson
13. Goodhue
14. Keresoma
15. Volavola
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Jordie Barrett played fullback in the club final last weekend, and was bloody good, despite brighton really targeting him with big hits and off the ball play..

Bovidae

Only a few provinces used the new ruck laws in their club competitions. That includes Northland, Bay of Plenty, North Harbour, Taranaki and Ta$man. Players coming back from Super rugby won't be familar with them either.
 
I found it strange watching the Waikato RS games live and the penalty count was high against both teams in those games.

JK

Harbour finished their pre season with a 17 14 win over Hawkes bay to make it 3 from 3 for the warmups. Were up 17 nil at half time before emptying the bench at the break

antipodean

That's all of Harbour's wins for the year then...

taniwharugby

haha, we won all our pre-season games about 5 or 6 years ago, think we won 2 games in the competition proper...ah the joys of being a Northland fan!

JK

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That's all of Harbour's wins for the year then...</blockquote> 
I'd pretty much take that haha

Cpt Kumera

bop just beat auckland in auckland 22 to 21, only preseason but good to see

The Silver Fern

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