NPC - news, injuries etc
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@snowy said in NPC - news, injuries etc:
@nepia said in NPC - news, injuries etc:
@kiwiwomble said in NPC - news, injuries etc:
@nepia so it is, oh well, I don’t see a problem taking sponsorship money from Aussie
Me either, plus they reinstated the NPC which the NZ companies failed to do - I might even go buy a sausage from them next weekend.
It really should be the the Bunnings NPP though. Or do you want it to be NPC just so Hawkes could actually win it?
I don't mind the Aussies paying for our comp either - I still won't buy from them though. Our M1O is locally owned and operated.
This is our year muthfucka.
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@snowy i understand the idea, there was a lot of that during our lockdown, but as someone pointed out on our local community facebook page, the "chain" stores in the area still employ loads of locals which is important too surely
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@kiwiwomble said in NPC - news, injuries etc:
@snowy i understand the idea, there was a lot of that during our lockdown, but as someone pointed out on our local community facebook page, the "chain" stores in the area still employ loads of locals which is important too surely
Sure they do, but the profits after the wages are paid go overseas. I prefer it all to stay here, not just some of it.
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@snowy obviously, as i say i understand how profits work, but if you dont support all local businesses then those chain ones will disappear and the locally owned ones wont just be able to employ all those people which will have a much bigger impact on a community than where the top % disappears off too
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@kiwiwomble Bunnings closed 7 regional stores and laid of a load of staff in the regions in the last year so their care factor for NZ provinces seems quite low. Kind of funny that they are the sponsors of our NPP really.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/418139/bunnings-warehouse-confirms-closure-of-7-stores#:~:text=Bunnings Warehouse has confirmed it,warning of possible legal action.&text=The closures - at Ashburton%2C Cambridge,ago%2C and affect 145 staff.They will stay where their profit base lies in the major centers and as soon as a downturn or Covid type event hits they will do what they did last time.
Local businesses do pick up the slack by the way - I have employed two extra staff in the last year because the locals support me. The gaps get filled, even if it takes a bit of time and a local business is likely to be more considerate than a big corporate.We are getting way off track, and if the Aussies want to pay for our comp great. They can't get their own one sorted.
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@kiwiwomble yeah I had this discussion with people saying they should boycott Maccas, Subway etc post lockdown in favour of local businesses.
I am all for supporting local, but these types of business as usually franchised, so locally owned too, employing locals, and both of those mentioned are big on supporting community sports (KFC are big on supporting sports, but I think they are not locally owned - is it Yum Brands or some massive organisation?)
I cant remember the last time I had Maccas or Subway!
Aussie money works ok over here too though?
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@taniwharugby Yeah they are mostly local businesses purchased by a franchisee from a company like Restaurant brands (who might be "yum" now). Those companies that own the rights to sell the franchises are often NZ companies as well, so the cash often stays in NZ. I went to school with the kid of the owner of your Whangarei Maccas. I think they did pretty well.
So those are local, even KFC I think. Bunnings are not - but happy to take their money.
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@snowy don’t think I ever claimed they hire people out of civic responsibility or something, but the motives of big corporations don’t change the fact the employ lots of people, surely we accept even a locally owned business will close down if they aren’t making enough money
I understand the argument more when taking about something like Amazon where the closest thing to local employment is the postie
The #shoplocal thing evolved pretty quick around us when people like the local dominos pointed out they hire x many locals but were getting punished just because they were a franchise, they explained they couldn’t have set up a pizza joint without the support of the corporate
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@kiwiwomble I own a franchise. I get how it works, and that people don't understand the difference between multinational and a franchise.
Your point was that multinational corporations employ people too wasn't it? In regional communities? They don't. If things get tough, as Bunnings, have shown, they will bail. Local businesses fill the gap left by the big guys pulling out. It's a good thing.
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@snowy i didn't specify regional, i said local. and how does Bunnings, using this example, not employ people?
so say there is a bunnings that bails?...there is just automatically going to be someone local that can afford to buy the building and stock and hore everyone? because if a business backed by a multinational corporation id be surprised if some local business could make it work to the same level
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@kiwiwomble Then you would be surprised. Locals can take on these buildings and do. Mostly the multinationals don't own them so it is locals and co ops like our M10 that do it. It works.
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They may have been fierce rivals through the years, but New Zealand Rugby and Llanelli Scarlets are developing a connection to enhance both organisations.
In the years of the amateur game pre-1996, the All Blacks and the Scarlets base club, Llanelli, featured in some great contests, notably the 1972 9-3 win for the Welsh club. But in the professional era, players, then coaches, have made a connection with the club. Most recently, New Zealand coaches have served at the club. As part of Brad Mooar's return to take up a place as an All Blacks' assistant coach, after only three months of a three-year contract last year, the Llanelli club negotiated an elite performance partnership with New Zealand Rugby (NZR). Mooar had followed Wayne Pivac when he moved to the Wales coaching role. And when Mooar returned to New Zealand, former Highlanders assistant coach Glenn Delaney took over the role with Ben Franks as his scrum coach, and former All Blacks captain and hooker Sean Fitzpatrick joining the club as a board member. That's not to forget the many battles sides from Llanelli had played against touring All Blacks sides in the amateur days, including their famous 9-3 win in 1972. Scarlets' general manager John Daniels is heading the relationship, according to The Rugby Paper. Daniels said the relationship 'looks at ways we can bounce ideas off each other and come up with provoking thoughts and innovations that might take things forward.' "It's a critical friend-type approach, looking at what we do and maybe suggesting new ideas. I'd like to also think they might take something from us," he said. As was the case with English club Harlequins, who also have a formal relationship with NZR, the Welsh side is looking to send some of its younger players to play in the Bunnings Warehouse NPC this year, as Joe Marchant had played Super Rugby for the Blues. Opportunities in New Zealand for the Scarlets' young players, whether in the provincial or club championships, would add to their development. "It would be a great rugby experience for them, but also in terms of life experience, they come back and probably be a more rounded and mature individual. "Being a professional athlete, it can be difficult to get real-life experiences, so the ability in a managed and controlled way to get players out there is a definite plus and something we have discussed with New Zealand. "The same opportunities exist for us to get staff down there and for the New Zealand Rugby Union to have staff come up and work with us. "Those are the concepts being fleshed out at the moment," Daniels said. -
@taniwharugby said in NPC - news, injuries etc:
@kiwiwomble yeah I had this discussion with people saying they should boycott Maccas, Subway etc post lockdown in favour of local businesses.
I am all for supporting local, but these types of business as usually franchised, so locally owned too, employing locals, and both of those mentioned are big on supporting community sports (KFC are big on supporting sports, but I think they are not locally owned - is it Yum Brands or some massive organisation?)
I cant remember the last time I had Maccas or Subway!
Aussie money works ok over here too though?
I've been to Maccas more in the last two weeks than in the last three years - due to the Cookie Time McFlurry.
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@bovidae Just to highlight this part of the quote:
As was the case with English club Harlequins, who also have a formal relationship with NZR, the Welsh side is looking to send some of its younger players to play in the Bunnings Warehouse NPC this year, as Joe Marchant had played Super Rugby for the Blues.
Opportunities in New Zealand for the Scarlets' young players, whether in the provincial or club championships, would add to their development.So don't be surprised if we end up with Welsh players in our provincial teams, taking the place of a local player.
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@stargazer i don't really have an issue with it if they come here and demand selection via club footy, then good on them.
Think there are benefits for both sides, particularly if they have also come through national age group or other elite type programs.
We have had a few players who were other nationalities over the years, a couple that have gone on to represent thier countries (other than the islands) but these have usually been 1 a season as opposed to several in a season.
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I see no benefit to making our opposition better.
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@taniwharugby said in NPC - news, injuries etc:
@stargazer i don't really have an issue with it if they come here and demand selection via club footy, then good on them.
Think there are benefits for both sides, particularly if they have also come through national age group or other elite type programs.
We have had a few players who were other nationalities over the years, a couple that have gone on to represent thier countries (other than the islands) but these have usually been 1 a season as opposed to several in a season.
yeah, i dont have a problem as long as the come over with no guarantees, join a club and earn a spot, i honestly want to see the Highlanders and otago win just as much as the AB's
