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@chris-b said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@bovidae That disgusts me.
However, the Shield no longer symbolizes anything very significant to me.
What this means is that Waikato selected Otago first - a no brainer - and Otago then selected Canterbury ahead of any other Premiership team as a mandatory RS game. Understandable as they are long-standing rivals.
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@chris-b said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@bovidae Waikato getting rewarded for being shit last year and getting relegated.
The Shield is dead to me!
Why? The fact that the first round of cross-over picks has resulted in Otago v Waikato, doesn't mean that that will be the first RS game of the season.
If the first RS game of the season is Otago v Taranaki, and Taranaki manages to grab the shield, and the next game is Taranaki v Ta$man, you'll still have a challege. Anything can happen. It's not like Otago is unbeatable at home.
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@stargazer Until Ta$man gets a challenge, the Shield is dead to me.
Waikato being lined up for a seventh challenge in seven seasons. Symbolises nothing except a flawed system.
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@chris-b said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@stargazer Until Ta$man gets a challenge, the Shield is dead to me.
Waikato being lined up for a seventh challenge in seven seasons. Symbolises nothing except a flawed system.
It's the frustrating beauty of the system (until Canterbury seems to get in a pattern of easy challenges).
At CM we get very lean spells where the Shield seems to deliberately avoid us, even more frustrating in those decades before we finally managed a win (under that appallingly poor choice as well
).You have to cross your fingers and hope you get a challenge at the same time as your team is going well.
I'll wait until the full draw before looking at the permutations and see if we've been left out in the cold again.
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@crucial I'm afraid the magic has departed for me. Six years and counting, while those Waikato fuckers line up to get yet another challenge - despite that only Bovidae, two other blokes and a dog actually turned up to watch their defences this year.
At what point do those sleepy fuckers at NZ Rugby wake up and go, "Actually, we can't seem organize a fair and proper competition to save ourselves"?
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Just because Waikato have chosen Otago it doesn't mean that will be the first game of the season. Until we see the schedule we don't know when during the season these games will be.
BTW talked to Richard Kinley (GM of Otago Rugby) yesterday about the Ranfurly Shield and the interview is available to my Pareons now, it will be public on the evening of the 12th
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@drivingmaul said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
Just because Waikato have chosen Otago it doesn't mean that will be the first game of the season. Until we see the schedule we don't know when during the season these games will be.
I realise this. However, it is iniquitous that Waikato should have been allowed that choice.
If they get a challenge it will be their seventh challenge in seven years. A period in which Ta$man has so far had none and is reliant once again on indirect and usually unlikely routes to getting a challenge - and if we do, you can bet your bottom dollar it will be against fucking Canterbury!
The system as it stands is stacked in favour of the worst team in the Premiership.
So basically, fuck the Shield and fuck NZ Rugby!
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I'm probably about to get shot down, but i feel like BOP hasn't had a crack at the Shield since we held the fucking thing.
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And @Chris-B it's probably more that the NZRU has some feel for tradition left, and doesn't want a manufactured franchise to get its grubby regional conglomerated mits on the Shield.
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@mariner4life yeah I think we might have had a challenge in 2017, but was a gap prior to that...least most of you cnuts have experienced winning the Shield, Northlands last tenure was before my time!
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@mariner4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
And @Chris-B it's probably more that the NZRU has some feel for tradition left, and doesn't want a manufactured franchise to get its grubby regional conglomerated mits on the Shield.
No - I suspect it's much worse than that. I suspect they're too fucking gormless to have even bothered to have a look. And if they have, they don't give a fuck.
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@chris-b Why wouldn't Waikato get that choice? The rules around cross-over selections have been the same for years and are applied the same way to each and every team. Why would they be applied differently to Waikato?
They finished first in the Championship and have earned promotion, which makes them the 7th placed team in the Premiership in 2019. That position in the Premiership determines the order in which they can make their picks, and according to the rules, that means they can make the first pick in the first round of cross-over selections, and that that will be a home game for the Championship team they pick. There's no reason at all why they couldn't or should'nt pick Otago.
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@stargazer I understand the rules and the rules are poor and should be changed.
Since the obvious first choice is, if possible, to put yourself in the frame for a Shield challenge surely the first choice should go to the team that has gone the longest without one. And the draw should give the teams that have gone longest without challenges the early cracks in the draw.
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@chris-b surely Ta$man would have had a choice of picking Otago before Waikato, so why did they (and all the other teams who had a pick before Waikato) have not picked Otago given they are shield holders?
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@taniwharugby Waikato got first choice.
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How about waiting to see the draw. For all we know Waikato's shield challenge could be in the last round (i.e. the least likely).
