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Stargazer

Please, apart from specific game topics, not another general Mitre 10 Cup thread.
 
The current thread is <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/index.php/topic/42158-2016-mitre-10-cup-news-injuries-etc/'>http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/index.php/topic/42158-2016-mitre-10-cup-news-injuries-etc/</a>

Tim

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taniwharugby

so they are playing the 'old' BP system in the Mitre 10 Cup...Northland already doubled our table points from 2015.....

African Monkey

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so they are playing the 'old' BP system in the Mitre 10 Cup...Northland already doubled our table points from 2015.....
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Bring back Dan Hawkins.

Stargazer

So with the new All Black call-ups, the following Mitre 10 Cup teams are affected:
 
North Harbour - James Parsons
Otago - Liam Coltman
Taranaki - Seta Tamanivalu
Waikato - Damian McKenzie
Auckland - Rieko Ioane
 
Canterbury gets Matt Todd back.

Stargazer

Rumours confirmed: Zac Guildford will play for Wairarapa Bush in the Heartland competition this year.
 
Apparently, he will be playing at fullback or centre for them; for this weekend's game he's been named at 13.
 
Article on WaiBush website: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://waibush.co.nz/wp/?p=4279'>http://waibush.co.nz/wp/?p=4279</a>
 
This week's team line-up: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.facebook.com/WairarapaBushRugby/photos/a.10152640292253327.1073741825.179585808326/10155193639748327/?type=3&theater'>https://www.facebook.com/WairarapaBushRugby/photos/a.10152640292253327.1073741825.179585808326/10155193639748327/?type=3&theater</a>

Stockcar86

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Rumours confirmed: Zac Guildford will play for Wairarapa Bush in the Heartland competition this year.
 
Apparently, he will be playing at fullback or centre for them; for this weekend's game he's been named at 13.
 
Article on WaiBush website: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://waibush.co.nz/wp/?p=4279'>http://waibush.co.nz/wp/?p=4279</a>
 
This week's team line-up: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.facebook.com/WairarapaBushRugby/photos/a.10152640292253327.1073741825.179585808326/10155193639748327/?type=3&theater'>https://www.facebook.com/WairarapaBushRugby/photos/a.10152640292253327.1073741825.179585808326/10155193639748327/?type=3&theater</a>
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Playing centre or fullback - the new Marty Berry

Stargazer

Manawatu (34) v (31) Southland, an absolutely terrible game, with terrible rugby, in terrible weather, with terrible commentary (Laban).
 
The Turbos were leading 24-0 at half-time; it was 31 all after 80 minutes and only because of a questionable penalty - perfectly kicked by Otere Black, by the way - Manawatu gets the 5 points. Neither team deserved so many points with all those handling errors.

African Monkey

Quite enjoyed that game tbh. Low on quality but plenty of endeavor from both sides. Manawatu are making a habit of throwing away big leads.

Stargazer

Some teams are getting their All Blacks for a game. Wish all teams were that lucky. 

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All Blacks squad members available for Mitre 10 Cup duties 
 Monday, 29 August, 2016 - 16:49 
 The following All Blacks squad members will be available for Mitre 10 Cup duties, if required this week. 
 Liam Coltman (Otago v Northland, Wednesday 31 August and Bay of Plenty v Otago, Sunday 4 September) 
 Lima Sopoaga and Patrick Tuipulotu, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Charlie Faumuina and Rieko Ioane (Southland v Auckland, Friday 2 September) 
 Seta Tamanivalu ( Ta$man v Taranaki, Saturday 3 September) 
 James Parsons (Wellington v North Harbour, Saturday 3 September) 
 Luke Romano, Ryan Crotty and Codie Taylor (Northland v Canterbury, Saturday 3 September) 
 Damian McKenzie (Waikato v Manawatu, Sunday 4 September) 
 Meanwhile, Coltman, Tamanivalu and McKenzie will reassemble with the All Blacks squad next weekend as injury replacement players, while Parsons and Ioane will be released to their Mitre 10 Cup teams. The All Blacks squad reassembles on Sunday 4 September in Hamilton to prepare for the Test match against Argentina in the Investec Rugby Championship.
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<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.voxy.co.nz/sport/5/261429'>http://www.voxy.co.nz/sport/5/261429</a>

Bovidae

So Coltman is now the 3rd rated hooker despite Parsons being in the 23 at the Caketin? 
 
From a Waikato perspective, surely TKB needs a game too? Unless Hansen is saving him for the Argie test in Hamilton. :)

African Monkey

Is Elliott Dixon injured? 
 
Auckland get yet another lock made available with Tuipulotu coming back for a game.

Stargazer

<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/83727365/waikato-forward-james-tucker-ruled-out-for-the-season-with-serious-knee-injury'>Waikato forward James Tucker ruled out for the season with serious knee injury</a>

Bovidae

It didn't look good when Tucker was helped off the field. Geez, he's had some bad luck with injuries.

taniwharugby

as good a place as any....
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/83764909/heartland-bonus-points-scoring-system-out-of-kilter-with-new-rules'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/83764909/heartland-bonus-points-scoring-system-out-of-kilter-with-new-rules</a>
 
New Zealand Rugby appear to have dropped the ball over the Heartland Championship competition bonus points scoring system.
A bonus point is awarded to a team for being within seven points at the finish of game, which was a converted try under the old Heartland rules.
In 2016, under the new trial rules, a try is worth six points and conversion two.
A number of Heartland unions are supporting a change to being within eight points but no decision has yet been made.
On Saturday North Otago lost to Mid Canterbury 40-32, so missed out on the bonus point.
North Otago chief executive Colin Jackson said his side should have been awarded a bonus point for being within eight points.
"Common sense says it should be eight points."
While the Old Golds did get one for scoring four tries, they could have had two competition points had the rules been changed, which could be crucial at the business end of the season.
Jackson said New Zealand Rugby were discussing the matter before the season kicked off and he believed it made sense to bring it in retrospectively.
"I did make a call on Monday to see what is happening."
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South Canterbury coach Barry Matthews said he had no problems with a change to the rules but did not believe it should be retrospective.
"It may have changed some sides thinking on Saturday. At one stage we had option for a penalty for a bonus point, had it been to close within eight points."
Matthews coached North Otago to the Meads Cup title in 2010 but had no sympathy for his old boss.
"The rules are what they are."
Thames Valley, Wairarapa Bush and Buller all earned a bonus point in their season openers for being with seven points.
North Otago were the only side be be beaten by eight.
South Canterbury Rugby Union chief executive Craig Calder is however at odds with his Heartland coach.
"This clause requires updating allowing for a bonus point be awarded to a team which loses by eight or fewer points, not seven points.
"We support that this amendment should be retrospective commencing from the start of the Heartland season."
The problem NZ Rugby faces is they likely need all 12 Heartland unions to agree as the championship has kicked off.
The union will not want to leave themselves exposed to any sort of challenge when the Meads Cup and Lochore Cup semi-finalists are found.
With the second round to be played on Saturday the longer the decision is delayed the more controversial it could become.
New Zealand Rugby had been contacted but no response had been received.

Stargazer

I heard an interview with the Wairarapa Bush coach a few days ago, who also questioned the fact that NZR hadn't made this change. Weird that NZR have not done so; it seems common sense.

Unco

I just noticed the header on the official Mitre 10 website is "Official home of the Investec Super Rugby competition". It's like they're not even trying.

Stargazer

@Unco said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

I just noticed the header on the official Mitre 10 website is "Official home of the Investec Super Rugby competition". It's like they're not even trying.

Hmm, where do you see that? I don't see that written anywhere (http://www.mitre10cup.co.nz/).

Unco

@Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

@Unco said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

I just noticed the header on the official Mitre 10 website is "Official home of the Investec Super Rugby competition". It's like they're not even trying.

Hmm, where do you see that? I don't see that written anywhere (http://www.mitre10cup.co.nz/).

Take a look at the title:
"Home | Mitre10 Cup | Official home of the Investec Super Rugby competition"

Stargazer

@Unco said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

@Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

@Unco said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

I just noticed the header on the official Mitre 10 website is "Official home of the Investec Super Rugby competition". It's like they're not even trying.

Hmm, where do you see that? I don't see that written anywhere (http://www.mitre10cup.co.nz/).

Take a look at the title:
"Home | Mitre10 Cup | Official home of the Investec Super Rugby competition"

Sorry, don't see; tried refreshing (Ctrl F5), but it's not there! Let's see whether uploading a pic works

0_1473081957230_Mitre 10 Cup site header.png

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