Olympics Thread
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="WillieTheWaiter" data-cid="604266" data-time="1470712640"><p>won't blame her for the mistake as the try they scored just before that should have been called a knock on so scenario would have been different - not saying we would have won but a non-try awarded then a player binned (that was off for farking ages as no break in play to come back on) totally change the match.<br> <br>don't really watch the 7's circuit - do they have tmo's in that? would have thought they would have had one for a gold medal match.<br> <br>noticed they weren't exactly replaying the front shot showing the dropped ball after the initial replay...</p></blockquote><br>Can't blame the ref for it either - she consulted with two assistants and they both said they were happy.<br><br>I agree that it would be a good law revision for 7s to have the person come back on the field as soon as the pently time is served. Experience probably suugests that play wouldn't continue for that long, particularly in a game where you really don't want to go give up possession.
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<p>Can't blame the ref for it either - she consulted with two assistants and they both said they were happy.<br><br>
I agree that it would be a good law revision for 7s to have the person come back on the field as soon as the pently time is served. Experience probably suugests that play wouldn't continue for that long, particularly in a game where you really don't want to go give up possession.</p>
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<p>The issue with allowing them back on is: where?</p>
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<p>A sport like AFL with an interchange bench has strict rules around where a player may enter or leave the field of play for interchange. They don't have an offside line, or a sin bin/card system. The game continues.</p>
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<p>League sides only do interchange when they have the ball, because they're unlikely to suffer a change of possession in the meantime. Again, this is interchange, not yellow card.</p>
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<p>With rugby, allowing a player back on the field without the consent of the referee - who is the sole judge of law in the game - has to have pretty tight restrictions placed around it.</p>
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<p>Firstly, the referee's often take a moment to address the player to reinforce the admonishment, though that is less so in 7s.</p>
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<p>Secondly, they can't come back from an offside position :think: maybe only from in-goal? Then an official has to monitor that as well.</p>
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<p>It sucks in this situation for the NZ team, but it has been this way since cards were introduced for these offences. And the effective doubling of the duration was down to game circumstances.</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Secondly, they can't come back from an offside position </span> :think:<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> maybe only from in-goal? Then an official has to monitor that as well.</span></p>
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<p>An official is usually with the player when they're sin binned (or should be since all other sports do) so they allow the binned player onto the field once they know the player is on-side which is a matter of seconds. Simple. <span style="font-size:8px;">Fuck, I should really run World Rugby....</span></p> -
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<p>No!</p>
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<p>If we could collect the silver or replay the tournament I'd go for the replay and not even think about it. </p>
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<p>Silver was best we could have realistically done. We would beat that Aussie team about once in every 6 or 7.</p> -
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<p>just further. Their synchronized team that got silver</p>
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<p>you have an issue with Water Polo but not synchronised swimming....wonder why</p>
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<p>Plenty of sports, hobbies or past times have a required skill level and some form of reasonable physical involvement and there are plenty of sports I dont think should be at the games, but there will be plenty who disagree.</p>
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<p>Surely we can all agree Poker is not a sport, I mean they play it on the sports channel so someone is confused enough to think it it one! </p> -
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<p>you have an issue with Water Polo but not synchronised swimming....wonder why</p>
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<p>Plenty of sports, hobbies or past times have a required skill level and some form of reasonable physical involvement and there are plenty of sports I dont think should be at the games, but there will be plenty who disagree.</p>
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<p>Surely we can all agree Poker is not a sport, I mean they play it on the sports channel so someone is confused enough to think it it one! </p>
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<p>ESPN played some college spelling bee on sky sports once. No shit. Fucken exciting it was too, the nerdy white kid with glasses beat the nerdy Asian kid with glasses. Thank goodness it wasn't a maths event.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="604303" data-time="1470728060"><p>The issue with allowing them back on is: where?</p></blockquote><br>The issue is where the mandated penalty is 10% of the game time in a final and instead it turned into a 20% penalty.<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><p>A sport like AFL with an interchange bench has strict rules around where a player may enter or leave the field of play for interchange. They don't have an offside line, or a sin bin/card system. The game continues.<br><br>League sides only do interchange when they have the ball, because they're unlikely to suffer a change of possession in the meantime. Again, this is interchange, not yellow card.</p></blockquote><br>We aren't talking about interchange.<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><p>With rugby, allowing a player back on the field without the consent of the referee - who is the sole judge of law in the game - has to have pretty tight restrictions placed around it.<br><br>Firstly, the referee's often take a moment to address the player to reinforce the admonishment, though that is less so in 7s.<br><br>Secondly, they can't come back from an offside position :think: maybe only from in-goal? Then an official has to monitor that as well.</p></blockquote><br>You can run on from the sideline regardless because the ball is dead as per Law 3.13<br><br>It's a simple amendment for 7s to make that the player can come back on in an onside position as long as the timekeeper responsible for the yellow card is happy the penalty has been served.
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Can we put the fucking rugby laws discussion on its own fucking thread.<br><br>
Olympics: every 4 years.<br><br>
Rugby law conundrum; every fucking ruck, maul, scrum, card of every fucking game, every season. -
<p>I reckon Archery should take over from Darts. Archers at the back of the hall shooting over the heads of beer swilling fans underneath. Modify the scoring system a little to introduce some of the drama of darts, sets that finish with a "double". Loud music. Darts would be history in no time.</p>
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<p>And on the Sevens - Aussies now the team to beat in Women's 7s after NZ dominated for a few years. Women's team seems to be modelled on the Men's without out and out speedsters but with everyone having pace and power. The game has come on a bit in recent years with more competitive teams and the defence ramping up - good to see. Looked like NZ needed one more game breaker out there, it was Kayla and Portia and if they don't do it then nobody will. What happened to Honey Hireme (Honey Bill)?</p>
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<p>And I only listened on the radio but even I was urging them to kick it out when they were on attack with 6 players. They just had to avoid conceding until they were back to 7.</p> -
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<p>Can we put the fucking rugby laws discussion on its own fucking thread.<br><br>
Olympics: every 4 years.<br><br>
Rugby law conundrum; every fucking ruck, maul, scrum, card of every fucking game, every season.</p>
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<p>Brilliant brief rant and I agree 100%.</p> -
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<p>Brilliant brief rant and I agree 100%.</p>
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<p>Unless you put a pic of a hot female athlete in the post as compensation for the rest of us.</p> -
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I reckon Archery should take over from Darts. Archers at the back of the hall shooting over the heads of beer swilling fans underneath. Modify the scoring system a little to introduce some of the drama of darts, sets that finish with a "double". Loud music. Darts would be history in no time.</p></blockquote>
The Lamb pub in Devizes, Wiltshire has a shooting gallery in the pub. You can blaze away while sipping on a cold brew.<br><br>
"At first hearing, the pairing of firearms and alcohol seems a bit unconventional, but the shooting range has lived happily in The Lamb for more than a century, having been introduced, post-Boer War, with a view to improving the marksmanship of the locals ready for the conflicts to come.<br><br>
Ironic, really, that the authorities should seek to introduce lethal weaponry to an establishment where, traditionally, differences have been resolved peacefully. “We don’t get fights in here,†says Ricky"<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/9489794/Pint-to-Pint-The-Lamb-Inn-Devizes-Wiltshire.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/9489794/Pint-to-Pint-The-Lamb-Inn-Devizes-Wiltshire.html</a> -
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<p>God, we really do need a new flag. That is ridiculous.</p> -
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<p>God, we really do need a new flag. That is ridiculous.</p>
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Lets get some vexillologists onto that, those guys really know their stuff.</p></blockquote>
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As any good vexillologist would know, the NZ ensign became law by act of Parliament in 1902. The Australian in 1903. To avoid confusion, make them pavlova stealing flag copyists in the west island change their Jonny come lately national dish cloth. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Immenso Rapido" data-cid="604323" data-time="1470731541"><p>Can we put the fucking rugby laws discussion on its own fucking thread.<br><br>Olympics: every 4 years.<br><br>Rugby law conundrum; every fucking ruck, maul, scrum, card of every fucking game, every season.</p></blockquote> <br>Sorry to have ruined your Olympic experience.<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="TeWaio" data-cid="604338" data-time="1470733189"><p>God, we really do need a new flag. That is ridiculous.</p></blockquote><br>Maybe one day.
